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How Spain has shown unexpected resilience to the crisis

Old Jul 30th 2016, 5:56 pm
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I think this article makes some very interesting points about the Spaniards

Austerity: How Spain has shown unexpected resilience to the crisis | In English | EL PAÍS
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Don't really know what to think of this report. It appears to talk about resilience on one hand and, awful wages and work contracts and living of grandpa's pension on the other hand
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Yes it does but it also seems to say that the Spaniards have coped well with el crisis by sticking together as families and helping each other (OK many have gone abroad to find work) but have not created massive civil unrest or taken out their frustrations on the foreigners living here (Remind you of anywhere?)
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Talk to a young adult in Andalucia , undemployment is catastrophic ,under 25 years all over 50% - total waste of resources.In females of that age group above 80%.
Does Spain have the same problem as UK - Madrid elite living well while the distant regions suffer ? El Pais is a good newspaper but this is real Madrid-written tosh.
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Default Re: How Spain has shown unexpected resilience to the crisis

Originally Posted by spainrico
Yes it does but it also seems to say that the Spaniards have coped well with el crisis by sticking together as families and helping each other (OK many have gone abroad to find work) but have not created massive civil unrest or taken out their frustrations on the foreigners living here (Remind you of anywhere?)
Much credit is due to them for coping as well as they have.

Civil unrest, mass protests and demonstrations are no longer allowed under Rajoys new Franco type laws and promptly dealt with in a very uncivil manner, so they have little alternative but to grin and bear it or else leave the country as many have done.
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Talk to a young adult in Andalucia , undemployment is catastrophic ,under 25 years all over 50% - total waste of resources.In females of that age group above 80%.
Does Spain have the same problem as UK - Madrid elite living well while the distant regions suffer ? El Pais is a good newspaper but this is real Madrid-written tosh.
The mainstream media are under the cosh of Rajoy with appointed govt representatives censoring or overseeing almost everything they turn out,
in stark contrast to the free Spanish press that spoke its own mind and that of the people only a few years ago.
Criticism is against the law involving quite a hefty fine, as is photography or exposure of police activities.
The only way to get a reasonable impression of what is really happening is to mix with as many Spanish people as possible and listen to their opinions.
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Talk to a young adult in Andalucia , undemployment is catastrophic ,under 25 years all over 50% - total waste of resources.In females of that age group above 80%.
Does Spain have the same problem as UK - Madrid elite living well while the distant regions suffer ? El Pais is a good newspaper but this is real Madrid-written tosh.
I employ young people in Asturias and I have to say that the situation is way better than you explain

I have 5 Spanish 20 somethings working with me and although the job market isnt brilliant, most of their friends have pretty good professional jobs. Some have had to move to the UK, Netherlands or Germany, but they will be back in Spain once they have built up their experience

Even those people I interviewed but decided not to give a job to have got good jobs now, I can see on their LinkedIn profiles

As always, those with a bit of get up and go do better than those who sit and wait for something great to happen to them
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Well, I think things in the north are much better than in Andalucia. But even so, I think it's not great.

My (Spanish) brother-in-law lives in Asturias. He is in his mid-20s. He was lucky to find a job a couple of years ago after more than a year of searching. He complains that it's a little bit tough to socialize now because none of his friends have any money to go out. Because no one has a job. That is, of the ones who haven't moved to another country to find work.

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That is, of the ones who haven't moved to another country to find work.

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This is where the EU is important. The freedom of movement for labour reduce the unemployment problem in countries like Spain while on the other hand helps other EU countries facing a shortage of workers (like Germany) to recruit.
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This is where the EU is important. The freedom of movement for labour reduce the unemployment problem in countries like Spain while on the other hand helps other EU countries facing a shortage of workers (like Germany) to recruit.
I don't think there's a shortage in Germany at the moment or anywhere else in N.Europe.
The situation has changed drastically this past year.
Previously there were quite a lot of Spaniards moving up that way for work.

Quite a lot of those who went to Germany didn't stay too long and ended up back in Spain mainly because the way of life and militaristic attitude was too much of a contrast to their previous easy going life style, though some of them seemed more comfortable in the UK where the contrast wasn't so great.
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"Militaristic" ? You mean in the morning they get up and go to work.
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If their statistics could show those working (cash in hand) but not declaring it, I think that would be very revealing of the true state of the Spanish job market?
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