how much reregister in UK not Spain.
Mar 9th 2011, 8:33 am
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Re: how much reregister in UK not Spain.
As others have said, best option is get a cheap s/h car in Spain.
The residency situation is confused and to some extent contradictory.
I'm not sure I understand your question about the legality of residency.
Certainly tax residency is clearly defined and so is the requirement to register on the register of foreigners.
The padron is less clear as in some areas the town hall has encouraged anyone with a holiday property or rental contract to sign on. However the relevant law clearly states you are only supposed to sign on the padron if your "Habitual Home" is in the locality which in itself would imply tax residency.
As I said earlier if you want to pursue the residency issue in its own right please start a new thread.
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The residency situation is confused and to some extent contradictory.
I'm not sure I understand your question about the legality of residency.
Certainly tax residency is clearly defined and so is the requirement to register on the register of foreigners.
The padron is less clear as in some areas the town hall has encouraged anyone with a holiday property or rental contract to sign on. However the relevant law clearly states you are only supposed to sign on the padron if your "Habitual Home" is in the locality which in itself would imply tax residency.
As I said earlier if you want to pursue the residency issue in its own right please start a new thread.
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As I read it (possibly incorrectly), is that foreign residents are not allowed to have cars here for more than 6 months.
However, if you haven't signed on at the padron, then you are not classed as a foreign resident even though you may have an NIE number.
I suppose come June, I am meant to sign on at the padron for tax residency but at present we are living in a rented holiday home so it could not really be classed as habitual.
Mar 9th 2011, 8:33 am
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Just as a final note it costs you nothing to re plate a previously UK registered car when you take it back to the UK, but of course it will need a new MOT and probably tax. If you are plating a car that has not previously been in the UK then it would be a little different.
Mar 9th 2011, 8:36 am
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What I meant about the legality of residency is related to foreigners with cars.
As I read it (possibly incorrectly), is that foreign residents are not allowed to have cars here for more than 6 months.
However, if you haven't signed on at the padron, then you are not classed as a foreign resident even though you may have an NIE number.
I suppose come June, I am meant to sign on at the padron for tax residency but at present we are living in a rented holiday home so it could not really be classed as habitual.
As I read it (possibly incorrectly), is that foreign residents are not allowed to have cars here for more than 6 months.
However, if you haven't signed on at the padron, then you are not classed as a foreign resident even though you may have an NIE number.
I suppose come June, I am meant to sign on at the padron for tax residency but at present we are living in a rented holiday home so it could not really be classed as habitual.
Mar 9th 2011, 9:24 am
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Re: how much reregister in UK not Spain.
What I meant about the legality of residency is related to foreigners with cars.
As I read it (possibly incorrectly), is that foreign residents are not allowed to have cars here for more than 6 months.
However, if you haven't signed on at the padron, then you are not classed as a foreign resident even though you may have an NIE number.
I suppose come June, I am meant to sign on at the padron for tax residency but at present we are living in a rented holiday home so it could not really be classed as habitual.
As I read it (possibly incorrectly), is that foreign residents are not allowed to have cars here for more than 6 months.
However, if you haven't signed on at the padron, then you are not classed as a foreign resident even though you may have an NIE number.
I suppose come June, I am meant to sign on at the padron for tax residency but at present we are living in a rented holiday home so it could not really be classed as habitual.
FYI: Whether you are on padron or have an NIE number, is irrelevant.
Mar 9th 2011, 9:43 am
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The post was really aimed at a possible way to get around it because I don't plan on staying here long term but definitely longer than 6 months.
EU citizens who are not Spanish residents may drive their foreign-registered vehicles (cars, motorbikes and caravans) in Spain for up to 180 days (six months) in a calendar year as long as it is road-worthy in the country in which it is registered. In this case, only the owner of the vehicle may drive it.
A foreign-registered vehicle may remain in Spain for more than 180 days in a calendar year as long as it is not driven. Even though EU citizens are no longer required to obtain a residence card, after 182 days the vehicle must be registered in Spain or garaged.
A foreign-registered vehicle may remain in Spain for more than 180 days in a calendar year as long as it is not driven. Even though EU citizens are no longer required to obtain a residence card, after 182 days the vehicle must be registered in Spain or garaged.
If it's taxed and MOT'd - would the Guardia even care?
Mar 9th 2011, 11:53 am
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Re: how much reregister in UK not Spain.
Just as a final note it costs you nothing to re plate a previously UK registered car when you take it back to the UK, but of course it will need a new MOT and probably tax. If you are plating a car that has not previously been in the UK then it would be a little different.
Mar 9th 2011, 12:01 pm
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FYI I just took a car back and it cost me nothing other than tax ins mot. Not even new headlights, and not sure what you mean about reversing or fog lights ... they are as was originally.
Mar 9th 2011, 12:40 pm
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No, I realise that, I've read through but there are lots of confusions TBH.
The post was really aimed at a possible way to get around it because I don't plan on staying here long term but definitely longer than 6 months.
This looks like a barage of loopholes concerning when the car came in, proof, perhaps I come in with the car every month, etc. etc.
If it's taxed and MOT'd - would the Guardia even care?
The post was really aimed at a possible way to get around it because I don't plan on staying here long term but definitely longer than 6 months.
This looks like a barage of loopholes concerning when the car came in, proof, perhaps I come in with the car every month, etc. etc.
If it's taxed and MOT'd - would the Guardia even care?
You may wish to ignore or misinterpret the rules to suit your purpose. Many do but if you have an accident
, you may regret it.
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Mar 9th 2011, 2:27 pm
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Mar 9th 2011, 3:34 pm
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So, buy a second hand car for 4 months and then sell it on?
Probably cheaper to get replated in Spain then get replated again in UK.
Or just pretend the car hasn't been here that long...who's to know I don't travel back and forth.
Probably cheaper to get replated in Spain then get replated again in UK.
Or just pretend the car hasn't been here that long...who's to know I don't travel back and forth.
Mar 9th 2011, 3:40 pm
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You have been given good advice, it is your choice whether you follow it.
Mar 9th 2011, 4:00 pm
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According to this: http://spain.angloinfo.com/countries...toregister.asp
it is the person not the car. Therefore legal proof would be the NIE.
Also, I have seen some suggestions that it is 6 months in any calendar year not 6 months continuous.
it is the person not the car. Therefore legal proof would be the NIE.
Also, I have seen some suggestions that it is 6 months in any calendar year not 6 months continuous.
Mar 9th 2011, 4:05 pm
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Re: how much reregister in UK not Spain.
However, having said that, some ITV centres ignore this problem whilst some don't.
Back in UK, I understand that even if you have 'Spanish' headlights, then with the appropriate sticky tape, MOT centres will still pass them as OK.