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El Capitan Jul 21st 2008 7:33 am

Re: how many making move
 

Originally Posted by toyboy23 (Post 6595299)
I still maintain that the twenty-mile radius of search at one extreme gets you forty miles nearer, or further, from a certain point, such as Heathrow.

So what is your point here toyboy?
I dont want to live next to heathrow. I dont need exactly to be in any one location but I would want to be within reach of airports and daughters and family. Property search engines only allow me to search within a radius of x miles from a point. Then I filter to a finer degree by eye.

jules h Jul 21st 2008 9:05 am

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Thanks
Really enjoyed reading some of the positive stuff for a change.
I cant believe that any sensible person can blame their financial mess on the banks offering 5X salary on mortgage lending. Are we assuming that we will borrow money simply because it is offered??
Does the small print not warn about the dangers of interest rates rising? Does anyone really think the banks cant wait to get their hands on repossed properties, a lengthy and drawn out process?
Things can only get better when people take responsibility for their own actions and decisions.
Happiness is a state of mind!!!

bil Jul 21st 2008 9:27 am

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Well, I don't remember ever saying that there wasn't a problem, or that estate agents weren't closing.

All I was trying to do was to point out that just maybe those who are screaming that the sky is falling might not be entirely correct.

toyboy23 Jul 21st 2008 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by jules h (Post 6595615)
Thanks. Really enjoyed reading some of the positive stuff for a change... …Happiness is a state of mind!!!

Thank goodness, jules h, for your contribution here. I suspect it won’t be long though before you’re accused of sticking your head in the sand like I was earlier. Objectives were never achieved without someone thinking positively that they could get on and do it. Imagine Edmund Hillary on the way up Everest saying to Tenzing et al, “Crikey chaps I really don’t feel we can do this. It’s a bit nippy and looks to be all uphill. How about we just go back and make a nice cup of tea?”


Originally Posted by bil (Post 6595708)
Well, I don't remember ever saying that there wasn't a problem, or that estate agents weren't closing. All I was trying to do was to point out that just maybe those who are screaming that the sky is falling might not be entirely correct.

Strange, isn’t it bil? You didn’t say (or even infer) that there wasn't a problem (just like me) or say/infer that estate agents weren't closing (just like me) but somehow that ‘fact’ gets thrown at us repetitively by ‘Los Negativos’. The usernames aren’t Chicken Licken, or Henny Penny, but the mind-set is the same.

bil Jul 21st 2008 11:52 am

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Thanks for mentioning that. :thumbup:

toyboy23 Jul 21st 2008 12:08 pm

Re: how many making move
 

Originally Posted by El Capitan (Post 6595342)
So what is your point here toyboy? I dont want to live next to heathrow. I dont need exactly to be in any one location but I would want to be within reach of airports and daughters and family. Property search engines only allow me to search within a radius of x miles from a point. Then I filter to a finer degree by eye.

Since you ask, my point (or rather points) in this particular case:

1) You’re posting in a thread that concerns making the move to Spain, and (as I said at #144) the ability (or not) to sell a house in the UK. In slow stages you’re choosing to talk about buying a house in the UK. There’s always a bit of thread creep in forums, but that’s completely the opposite.

2) You could simply start a thread on the topic you appear to want to debate, but you don’t.

3) You’re being obtuse in that you’re playing your cards close to your chest and adding just a little bit more information every now and then, apparently just to try and prove earlier posters wrong when you ‘make the reveal’.

4) You appear of late to be stalking certain BE posters just to post negatively or provocatively. (see the No Doom Only Positive Comment thread, post #39, for one example) There’s a clue in ‘Only Positive Comment’.

These points, coupled with the fact that your BE profile is devoid of real information, makes it look like trolling to me. Don’t get me wrong though - I don’t give a monkey’s if that’s what floats your boat.

El Capitan Jul 21st 2008 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by toyboy23 (Post 6596172)
Since you ask, my point (or rather points) in this particular case:

1) You’re posting in a thread that concerns making the move to Spain, and (as I said at #144) the ability (or not) to sell a house in the UK. In slow stages you’re choosing to talk about buying a house in the UK. There’s always a bit of thread creep in forums, but that’s completely the opposite.

Only one point worthy of reply toyboy, to sell a house in the UK you need a buyer. Not at all opposite but reinforces the balance of the issue. I see things from the other side as a potential buyer.

toyboy23 Jul 21st 2008 9:37 pm

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I didn’t for one minute expect answers…

And now qué sorpresa this morning there’s another :zzz: negative post from you on the No Doom Only Positive Comment thread. (#45)


I see things from the other side as a potential buyer.
Which took you sooo many posts to reveal. I then contemplated talking objectively about your property search parameters, but soon realised: 1) that’s not your interest at all, and 2) it’s not on thread.

I’m a great believer in the British Standard Duck Test.

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

El Capitan Jul 21st 2008 9:57 pm

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Originally Posted by toyboy23 (Post 6597408)
Which took you sooo many posts to reveal.

See post 56.

:zzz:

denday23 Aug 10th 2008 10:57 am

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I believe that what ever you need to reduce the price by in the UK to achieve a sale you will be able to do exactly the same here in Spain, nothing is moving unless you are prepared to almost give it away, especially the larger villas. We have had ours on the market now for almost 18 months and only had 3 viewings now we know why, we told the agent that we wanted 650.000euros returned which is a heavy loss for us but when the last couple came to view they told the Agents it was the best they had seen and loved our Villa, they said that they had a business in the UK which I had heard of so after a few weeks decided to call them just to see if they had decided on a property,when he told me that he thought it was a little expensive at 825.000euros I said yes i agree I am not asking that price it is 650 this was last week but have not heard since, so I would suggest not using an Agent unless they disclose what there commission is first, huge saving can be made by dealing direct with the owners through local papers or internet websites offering properties direct from the owner.
Good luck with your sale

Justlookin Aug 26th 2008 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by Cape Blue (Post 6578003)
I can't agree with that, the 1989/90 crash was significantly worse than things currently are - I am not saying that the current situation will not get worse but they are not that bad yet.

Well it seems the Bank of England doesn't agree with you. See the numerous on-line and newspaper reports of their bosses statement of a day or so ago when he harks back to a worse time than the late 80's/early 90's and says its now as bad as the recession of the 70's. At the time of your message that info must have been obvious to the B of E but they wouldn't exactly have been racing to tell us all - let the new guy do that.

On track - there must be a considerable and obvious slow down of people moving - again despite the views of a few, most property isn't even being looked at let alone sold. At least 3 properties in my road have been taken off the market rather than sold.

El Capitan Aug 26th 2008 9:58 am

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Originally Posted by Justlookin (Post 6717219)
At least 3 properties in my road have been taken off the market rather than sold.

Obviously the sellers are asking too much still and not attracting the buyers in.

Justlookin Aug 26th 2008 7:45 pm

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Originally Posted by El Capitan (Post 6718117)
Obviously the sellers are asking too much still and not attracting the buyers in.

Whilst that could be true, it appears that it is not.

People are not even making offers - even silly money. The majority of folk are simply not interested in moving home at the moment.

El Capitan Aug 26th 2008 7:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Justlookin (Post 6719155)
Whilst that could be true, it appears that it is not.

People are not even making offers - even silly money. The majority of folk are simply not interested in moving home at the moment.

Having already stated my own position above, as a potential buyer I am not going to waste my time nor a sellers time to even view a property unless it is being realistically marketed. My daughter has recently sold her house and re-marketed it to attract viewing and then lo and behold got an offer which she accepted. I do believe the UK housing market has been so much dominated by speculators and "buy to let" investors that the genuine home hunter has been squeezed out until the price comes down to what is affordable by those genuine home hunters. It is no surprise that the investors and speculators are not so interested because they are not looking for a home, they are looking for an investment opportunity and at the moment they are looking elsewhere than housing to make such investment. When you read of guys in the London area earning around 100000 pounds a year but still struggling with housing and living costs, there is something major wrong.

lyric030250 Aug 26th 2008 8:41 pm

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Having been on the market since last November we have accepted an offer 7.8% below our asking price on the strongest possible advice of our agent.
His vision of the cosmic all is a continued fall for at least a year, then two years to get back to where we are now.
We took the money and Spain here we come (to retire)


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