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Old May 28th 2010, 10:09 am
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The figures were from an article on immigration into the UK. They reckoned that the biggest group were returning expats, and gave the figure that about 70% returned within three years.

Interestingly, they also said that the same applies to people who move much within the UK itself. Most tend to go home fairly soon, ie within that 3 year period.
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Originally Posted by whitelinen
I doubt you would find it funny if it was your dad who was at the mercy of the NHS and mine is in Surrey not some immigrant hotspot.
Well unfortunately the problem is with the aspirations of young British people.

They would rather do a media studies degree or try to get on X-factor then study be a doctor or nurse. That is why Britain has to import so many health workers.

In Spain it is even possible for doctors to be unemployed as there are too many doctors to go round! Some go to the UK or US, for the better pay too.
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We've been here five years full-time and one doing half-and-half. At some point we will relocate permanently to the UK but have no plans to do so as yet. (Have to wait at least five years until we are both 65 and don't have to pay any tax on the sale of the house. ).
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Originally Posted by cricketman

That is why Britain has to import so many health workers.
I am sceptical of this popular opinion. I am hearing that the problem lies with
the previous government setting targets for diversity or whatever it is called. Job application forms are very intrusive and ask a lot about ethnicity.
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Originally Posted by Rotor
.But yes I agree about it being hard to find an english speaking doctor in certain parts of the UK
Are you saying they don´t speak English at all, or just that their accent is such that they are difficult to understand. I have been the rounds of many doctors, including a several foreign ones, and never came across one that did not speak English. Difficult to understand the accent, yes, but I find it difficult to believe that they work for the NHS with no English. It´s becoming a problem in Spain as well, many Spanish doctors have left for more profitable jobs elsewhere, and have been hiring Polish and Moroccan doctors for some years now.


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Originally Posted by whitelinen
I am sceptical of this popular opinion. I am hearing that the problem lies with
the previous government setting targets for diversity or whatever it is called. Job application forms are very intrusive and ask a lot about ethnicity.
I attended an NHS training event very recently and was in a team of 6: me (white British) and five Africans.

However, should add that all had good spoken English.

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In Spain, they won't accept foreign (or European) specialists without putting every conceivable 'pega' they can in their way. Specialists must be 'homologized' with rules written here specifically to make sure that they aren't. Any foreign degree - if not an exact match of a Spanish one - is worthless. Most specialists coming here to work would have to pass their school exams again, or as someone says elswehere (my site):
'...Basically, my only option would be to go back to school in Spain, retake my ESO, Bachillerato, degree...
And that's not counting all those kids who come over here with stuff like NVQs, City & Guilds, qualifications from the Institute of Blah...
So much for 'free movement' between member states, and the right to live and work in any EU country!!!!!
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Originally Posted by bil
The figures were from an article on immigration into the UK. They reckoned that the biggest group were returning expats, and gave the figure that about 70% returned within three years.

Interestingly, they also said that the same applies to people who move much within the UK itself. Most tend to go home fairly soon, ie within that 3 year period.
Thats pretty much what I`ve seen,even though the argumentative mitzy wont have it
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Originally Posted by whitelinen
I doubt you would find it funny if it was your dad who was at the mercy of the NHS and mine is in Surrey not some immigrant hotspot.
Then insist on an english speaking doctor , its his right! take it to the top if you have to and even the press , having a dig at me will not help his situation.
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Originally Posted by Lenox
In Spain, they won't accept foreign (or European) specialists without putting every conceivable 'pega' they can in their way. Specialists must be 'homologized' with rules written here specifically to make sure that they aren't. Any foreign degree - if not an exact match of a Spanish one - is worthless. Most specialists coming here to work would have to pass their school exams again, or as someone says elswehere (my site):
'...Basically, my only option would be to go back to school in Spain, retake my ESO, Bachillerato, degree...
And that's not counting all those kids who come over here with stuff like NVQs, City & Guilds, qualifications from the Institute of Blah...
So much for 'free movement' between member states, and the right to live and work in any EU country!!!!!
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Spanish companies have always taken my qualifications as a match for those in Spain (or better). The problem is with anything that is public service, like the health service.
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Originally Posted by Rotor
Thats pretty much what I`ve seen,even though the argumentative mitzy wont have it
Ha! No, what I'm saying is that it's impossible to say that most expats move on, because we just dont know ... for instance none of the expats here I knew when I came here have moved back, but I aint claiming that most expats dont go back

So who wrote this article Bil? Someone who has access to reliable figures of some kind?
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Ha! No, what I'm saying is that it's impossible to say that most expats move on, because we just dont know ... for instance none of the expats here I knew when I came here have moved back, but I aint claiming that most expats dont go back

So who wrote this article Bil? Someone who has access to reliable figures of some kind?
& I wouldn't claim that most do go back - even though EVERYONE I met in the first year/18 months has either gone back or is going back this year!
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& I wouldn't claim that most do go back - even though EVERYONE I met in the first year/18 months has either gone back or is going back this year!
Must be something about Javea
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
Must be something about Javea
must be

it'll be a Spanish fishing village again soon!

it's true though - by the end of the summer there will be just one British family that we know from our first year here, still here

they don't live IN Javea though
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Originally Posted by montgomail
I attended an NHS training event very recently and was in a team of 6: me (white British) and five Africans.

However, should add that all had good spoken English.
I can believe that! It's just that someone claiming it's difficult to find a doctor that speaks English a bit far fetched, IMHO.
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