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Old May 2nd 2008, 12:20 pm
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No wonder Betty's hotpot's in the rovers were popular with you northern folk
Exactly......... why would so many people frequent such a shite pub...... even the `oldies` keep going in..... Eeeee Betty Love , I`ll `ave one of yer `otpots ..... wink wink wink nudge nudge....
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Originally Posted by derbyflan
Incest has been done for centuries.

Don't make it legal though.
Maybe in Derbyshire........
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Maybe in Derbyshire........
We like to keep it in the family
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Old May 2nd 2008, 6:32 pm
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OK....my take on this! It's animal cruelty plain and simple. Contact the Guardia!

I've never seen it done here cos horses are accorded a lot more respect in this area, and probably get treated better than any other animal. And there are some superb horsemen here too.

Full marks to zel for his observation that just because something is technically legal or an accepted practice doesn't make it right. These people need to be educated to conform to acceptable practice. Why? Cos Spain get billions from the EU every year....so if they want the dosh they better fall in line.

Remember that up to 1975, wifebeating was legal, and was viewed as an acceptable practice. Even today, there is still a culture or mindset of domestic violence bubbling under the surface, though most of you are probably blissfully unaware of it.

Racism is rampant here. And it's an underclass in society that Spain actually created for itself.....rather than in other countries where certain groups have created their own ghetto culture and blame "The Man" for keeping them down! In Spain, there was "A Man" and he did keep them down. It's a situation of Spain's own creation.

So....just because something was legal, is legal, or is viewed as part of their culture doesn't make it right. Spain is way behind the UK in many areas and they have to move on through education and changing peoples' ways of thinking.

Franco's dead....he's not coming back....so get over it. 'Ave it!
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Originally Posted by zel
I've just had a google and found these people : http://www.blue-horses.com/

They're based in Andalucia but may be able to least give you a quick definitive answer if this practice is illegal or not.

Mods: The above url is a charity that sponsor neglected, abused or abandoned horses.
I have just emailed these people to ask them if it is legal or not, and if illegal what steps can I take to free these horses as quick as possible.
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Old May 2nd 2008, 8:14 pm
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Go to Seprona (the Guardia) they are really helpful. They've just sorted out a problem for a friend of mine whose neighbours were keeping their dogs caged all the time, so they were barking constantly.

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Originally Posted by XTreme
OK....my take on this! It's animal cruelty plain and simple. Contact the Guardia!

I'd rather have my feet tied together than a sword driven between my shoulder blades - that appears to be perfectly acceptable in your neck of the woods - not just to bulls if your stories are true?
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Originally Posted by leighbloke
I'd rather have my feet tied together than a sword driven between my shoulder blades - that appears to be perfectly acceptable in your neck of the woods - not just to bulls if your stories are true?
What stories of animals being stabbed with swords are these? Can you give me links?
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Originally Posted by XTreme
What stories of animals being stabbed with swords are these? Can you give me links?
I was talking about the exploits in the Bull ring, and those of your gypsy buddies.
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Originally Posted by leighbloke
I was talking about the exploits in the Bull ring, and those of your gypsy buddies.
So what acts of animal atrocities have the Gypsies committed then Leighbloke?
Once again, any links to posts that I've made particularly singling out Gypsies in this area would be helpful?
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So what acts of animal atrocities have the Gypsies committed then Leighbloke?
Once again, any links to posts that I've made particularly singling out Gypsies in this area would be helpful?
I'm not suggesting they carry out these atrocities on animals Pete - But you have mentioned many times of the "justice" dealt out out by Angel & Nico (?)
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Originally Posted by leighbloke
But you have mentioned many times of the "justice" dealt out out by Angel & Nico (?)
Firstly the Angel I've mentioned is Spanish....not Gitano. He owns the holiday cave complex and has an assortment of horses, ponies, and donkeys. I've never mentioned him in relation to anything other than the caves.

Secondly....Nico is Gitano! And he has a number of dogs.....all of which are well cared for. And if he sees anybody being cruel to animals then he won't stand for it.

And what exactly is this "justice" you talk of?

Once again, I have to say, if you are going to alledge I've said something then make sure you've got your facts straight. That means you support your assertions with links!

Anything other than that is just gross generalisations, misinformation, and untruths in the same manner as cheap tabloid journalism.

So....you got links for all your assertions?
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Originally Posted by XTreme
Firstly the Angel I've mentioned is Spanish....not Gitano. He owns the holiday cave complex and has an assortment of horses, ponies, and donkeys. I've never mentioned him in relation to anything other than the caves.

Secondly....Nico is Gitano! And he has a number of dogs.....all of which are well cared for. And if he sees anybody being cruel to animals then he won't stand for it.

And what exactly is this "justice" you talk of?

Once again, I have to say, if you are going to alledge I've said something then make sure you've got your facts straight. That means you support your assertions with links!

"Anything other than that is just gross generalisations, misinformation, and untruths in the same manner as cheap tabloid journalism.

So....you got links for all your assertions?
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Sorry they're all foreign to me - is a gitano not a french cig brand??

I really don't have the time to trawl through all pics of bikes you post to find all the times you talk about your buddies dishing out "the Goods"

But heres a couple, so accept you have given me a certain impression of the type of people you call your friends - WTF do you think I am so nice to you??


"Now I live in an area that is populated mainly by Gitanos (Andalucian gypsies) .....like Nico. Seen here outside his palatial residence which he's trying to flog to gormless Brits.
Nico has no Butler! Nico would slit a Butler's throat on sight!"


"You get the odd misunderstanding between the English and the locals of course.....but it's nothing that can't be resolved by attacking somebody with a pitchfork."
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I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that the surreal combination of a Gitano with an English Butler is a ludicrous parody of two polar opposite class structures. Those being the affluence of the English upper classes and the abject poverty of the Southern European Roma population.
I think it's higly unlikely that Nico even has a clue what a butler is.....so I think all the domestic manservants on here can sleep soundly in their beds tonight.

As for the pitchfork business.....that was a Youtube video somebody posted on here of a 70 year old Spaniard (who's actually sitting on a bench across the road now) attacking a local Brit with a pitchfork over a land dispute. I can't comment on that incident....all I know is what I've seen on film. Though I would add I've never spoken to the Brit, yet I speak to the old Spanish guy every day, and he's never attacked me with a pitchfork. So you'll have to draw your own conclusions on that one.

Your original premise was that people were being cruel to animals here. Yet you failed to produce the evidence to substantiate that.
And in reality I'd have to say there's probably less of it here than many other places in Spain.
Possibly Nico (if pushed) would be cruel to a Butler. And the old guy (when provoked) certainly wouldn't think twice about being cruel to a dumbass Brit with a pitchfork.
But my concern is not for Butlers or dumbass Brits.....my concern is for the animals!
However.....if when I drive down to Dylan's place tonight and see the sides of the road piled with the corpses of Butlers and Brits looking like a scene from Mad Max...........I'll let you know immediately!
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Originally Posted by DebsyW
Exactly......... why would so many people frequent such a shite pub...... even the `oldies` keep going in..... Eeeee Betty Love , I`ll `ave one of yer `otpots ..... wink wink wink nudge nudge....

Maybe thats why they always have brown sauce with their otpots
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