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Old Mar 21st 2012, 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by SpanishAngel
Why? Standard practice in the holiday business with balance due generally 6 to 8 weeks before arrival. Adverts on the major listings sites are verified now before acceptance.

I don't understand why an owner wouldn't take a deposit and balance 6 weeks or so before arrival. You say you'll have 2 weeks in August and then don't show?
Cricketman obviously doesn't travel much. Please, it's absolutely normal to pay something at booking time.

9flats, for example, ensures both the guest and the owner. The guest pays at time of booking, and 9Flats holds it until the guest checks in, and only when the guest agrees that everything is OK (by simply responding to an sms), then the payment is released to the owner.

If the guest claims it's not OK, then it goes into immediate arbitration before the guest receives the money back, or the owner receives it, depending on the result of the arbitration. If the guest simply no-shows then the owner's cancellation policy goes into effect (say, 50% retained by the owner, if that's their stated policy).

I think it's a very good system because it's brain-dead simple, and ensures the owners can't get their money unless the accomodation is what they claim, and the guest gets their money back in full if not.
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Old Mar 21st 2012, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by savannah_boy
I speak and write well in Spanish.
I have a Spanish bank account.
I have a contact who has managed my apartment before for long term rentals & handyman who will do the changeovers.
I have insurance.

My experience with long term Spanish tenants and having lived in Spain for a number of years (before moving away) was that they are quite cagey and cash speaks loudly.
I was merely stating what I know. I have worked in this game for many years and I belong to a local association of similar businesses.


Running a vacation rental business takes time to establish. Maybe you just need a few more years before you find your market.
So I do not have any answer for you, except take long term rentals.
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Old Mar 21st 2012, 5:39 pm
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I wasn't being sarcastic. No offence intended.
I just have an apartment and a villa. I have had long term tenants in both but the apartment is vacant now and long term lets are slim pickings. I was just dipping my toe in the holiday rental market. More money can be made in the short term but it comes with it's hassle. Just looking for solid advice from people like your good self.

Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo
I was merely stating what I know. I have worked in this game for many years and I belong to a local association of similar businesses.


Running a vacation rental business takes time to establish. Maybe you just need a few more years before you find your market.
So I do not have any answer for you, except take long term rentals.
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Old Mar 21st 2012, 5:41 pm
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Why on earth wouldn´t you expect to pay a deposit to secure a booking? Otherwise anyone can just change their mind and not bother turning up. Two weeks in August would mean big losses.
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My apartment is in Pinar del Atlantico, La Barrosa and the market is mostly Spanish.
Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
Why on earth wouldn´t you expect to pay a deposit to secure a booking? Otherwise anyone can just change their mind and not bother turning up. Two weeks in August would mean big losses.
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Why would I want to put a deposit on a holiday let when I can book a hotel without a deposit, or at least free cancelation up until the last 2 days

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Old Mar 21st 2012, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
Why would I want to put a deposit on a holiday let when I can book a hotel without a deposit, or at least free cancelation up until the last 2 days
Don't most hotels take credit card details up-front? They always seem to with me!

Some of the better sites now take credit cards.

For holiday lets, take a look at Villa Renters, Holiday Rentals, Villaspeople, Rentalsystems or Independent Owners to name but a few of the larger ones.

I would never accept a booking (nor do these sites, in the main) without a deposit unless the client had rented from me before.
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
Why would I want to put a deposit on a holiday let when I can book a hotel without a deposit, or at least free cancelation up until the last 2 days
Why do people insist on comparing hotels with private holiday rentals. The two are miles apart!
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Originally Posted by savannah_boy
My apartment is in Pinar del Atlantico, La Barrosa and the market is mostly Spanish.
A beautiful area!

Went there for a long weekend last July. Will definitely be returning. Hopefully year after year. If I ever need somewhere to stay...

PM me the details just in case
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Originally Posted by snikpoh
Don't most hotels take credit card details up-front? They always seem to with me!
Yes but they do not necessarily take any money and the card will only be charged at the time of the stay or a charge of one nights accommodation in the event of a no show. Free cancellations are often allowed up to two days before the booking.
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Originally Posted by SpanishAngel
Why do people insist on comparing hotels with private holiday rentals.
They both supply holiday accommodation

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The two are miles apart!
Yes but which is at what end of the miles is a personal thing
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
They both supply holiday accommodation
And are both completely different. Each to their own but I know where I'd rather stay
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Originally Posted by SpanishAngel
And are both completely different. Each to their own but I know where I'd rather stay
Glad you enjoy housework
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Glad you enjoy fighting for space by the pool and spending time in your one room
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Originally Posted by SpanishAngel
Glad you enjoy fighting for space by the pool and spending time in your one room
They are completely different experiences

Playa Barrosa is full of 5* GL hotels. Great for a few nights but gets a bit pricey after that so a short term let is better. Anyway the best thing about the area is the beach which is the same for everyone, wont be spending any time in the room
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