cricketman

Democracy has never been the main issue

Whether the UK actually leave the EU depends on the divorce negotiations between the EU and UK, mainly over the passporting of Euro trade

If the EU do not allow the city of London to do any trade in Euros then the UK will not leave the EU as London would lose a third of its trade overnight.

I expect the negotiations to drag on for a year or two, and the Brexit will finally be cancelled when the polls show that the anti-Brexit propaganda is working, but of course this also depends on internal politics within the Tory party, which is what the EU referendum was mainly about

KieronF

Greatly revised terms of proposed continuing membership of the EU will evolve as the Brexit negotiations take shape in the coming years. I suspect these terms will be so significantly different from those voted on in June as to merit another vote, say in June 2018 along the lines of - still out, or back in under the revised terms.

tebo53

IMHO I think those who have lived here before the actual Brexit will keep the healthcare arrangements and those wishing to live in Spain after Brexit will have to arrange their own healthcare.

Over the years with natural reductions the UK healthcare bill will reduce accordingly. I would still take my chances and move out here.

Steve

bobd22

That is of course one of the options but I think if that happens it may well be challenged but who knows?

guirijohn

There were 253,928 Britons on the padron at 1st January 2016, the majority were pensioners. It would not be an overwhelming burden for the UK to continue contributing towards their health care, given that the burden would reduce with time. Whether the UK would be willing to pay for new arrivals is another question. But this is just speculation.

The bigger danger surely is that the 27 members are unlikely to agree among themselves on terms for Britain´s exit, each leader wanting something different for domestic electoral purposes. The UK would be unwise to start the countdown towards exit with the very real possibility of no agreed deal at the end of negotiations.

bobd22

Not a discussion on expat health care but state pensions in this link. Some interesting and quite scary views including by someone calling themselves oldcodger explains their views on here before disappearing! http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/03/should_expats_receive_a_uk_pen.html

Rosemary

This was on FB.

Valencia guarantees healthcare to British residents despite Brexit

Rosemary

gill556

This is 6 years old

bobd22

Sorry hadn't noticed the date however having listened to comments recently about expats from those still in uk no doubt even more pertinent now.

spainrico

Well as of now he cannot change anything, but I do not read this as a guarantee for the future.

I think earlier posters are correct those with existing rights will continue those arriving after 'the door is shut' (assuming it will be) will not get the same rights as new arrivals.

deeger

weird one isn't it should we stay or should we go........

strangely whichever way we go half the country will be angry..........

Hornets_Nest

The Tories need to listen to the 48% as well as many MPs - if Brexit does come about (which I am beginning to fear will happen) it must be #BrexitLite probably following the Norwegian model.

Bo S

Am I right in thinking that the referendum outcome still needs to go before parliment and voted on by the sitting MP's? Or is the vote legally binding on the government as it stands?

Where some of my friends live they had referendum on an issue but the government voted against it! The people just accepted it.

Hornets_Nest

just read that it doesn't need to go before Parliament - still a long way to go and with companies like Easyjet announcing they may move their HQ into Europe lots of things may happen.

Fred James

There are legal arguments being put forward at the moment to say that the decision to invoke Article 50 must be made by parliament. It is entirely possible that parliament, being about 65% against Brexit, could vote it down.

Even if the legal argument is lost, parliament still has to repeal the original act that gave Britain membership of the then Common Market. There are also legal arguments that the referendum was itself illegal as the reason Cameron set it up was purely to increase his chances of being elected at the last election.

It would be unwise to assume that Brexit is a foregone conclusion. There are many legal arguments out there to prevent it ever happening.