healthcare in spain
Jun 5th 2009, 5:49 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
Me as an example.
I lived in the UK for 52 years and paid into the system for about 35 years.
Then I moved to Spain. I got 18 months cover in the Spanish system and thats it. I of course have an EHIC card but its no use to me as I am a resident in Spain now. The NHS wont treat me when I go back if I am there on holiday. I had to pay to see a doctor.
So yes, you may have a house in the UK and you may (I dont know) manage to get an NHS card. But it wont be any use to you when you get to Spain. You havent paid into the system in the UK, so you wont get any free cover here. Unless you work you will have to get private care.
I hope that explains it more concisely for you. If health care is so important to you then you need to (a) work or (b) get private cover
I lived in the UK for 52 years and paid into the system for about 35 years.
Then I moved to Spain. I got 18 months cover in the Spanish system and thats it. I of course have an EHIC card but its no use to me as I am a resident in Spain now. The NHS wont treat me when I go back if I am there on holiday. I had to pay to see a doctor.
So yes, you may have a house in the UK and you may (I dont know) manage to get an NHS card. But it wont be any use to you when you get to Spain. You havent paid into the system in the UK, so you wont get any free cover here. Unless you work you will have to get private care.
I hope that explains it more concisely for you. If health care is so important to you then you need to (a) work or (b) get private cover
In Spain, the system is contribution based. As you haven't paid into the Spanish system and have no contributions to transfer from UK, you will probably get nothing in Spain
Jun 5th 2009, 2:47 pm
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Re: healthcare in spain
okay, thanks for all your feedback, thoughts, and suggestions.
I will just need to look a bit more into the system. I will post my results once I understand what my position actually is.
I will just need to look a bit more into the system. I will post my results once I understand what my position actually is.
Jun 5th 2009, 6:20 pm
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Re: healthcare in spain
Could I clarify the position re Autonomo contributions, does the €265 per month cover both myself and my wife for healthcare, or do we both need to pay in individually ?
Jun 5th 2009, 9:57 pm
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Re: healthcare in spain
I have held off from asking this question but I have to ask it anyway, What makes you think that you are entitled to UK NHS cover when you A. don't live there and B. have not paid into the system.
Jun 6th 2009, 5:34 am
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Jun 6th 2009, 5:48 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
Well to be quite frank.... what makes you think anyone is NOT entitled to healthcare no matter who they are and from where they are?
You think I haven't contributed to the UK? You don't even know who I am or what my history is... glad you are laughing out loud at my basic and human need for health and medical care.
jerk!
You think I haven't contributed to the UK? You don't even know who I am or what my history is... glad you are laughing out loud at my basic and human need for health and medical care.
jerk!
Jun 6th 2009, 6:23 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
Well to be quite frank.... what makes you think anyone is NOT entitled to healthcare no matter who they are and from where they are?
You think I haven't contributed to the UK? You don't even know who I am or what my history is... glad you are laughing out loud at my basic and human need for health and medical care.
jerk!
You think I haven't contributed to the UK? You don't even know who I am or what my history is... glad you are laughing out loud at my basic and human need for health and medical care.
jerk!
Good luck.
Last edited by jjh; Jun 6th 2009 at 6:25 am.
Jun 6th 2009, 6:58 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
To the OP
You just managed to slip into the UK passport rules then.
Last edited by livit; Jun 6th 2009 at 7:06 am.
Jun 6th 2009, 7:22 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
Well to be quite frank.... what makes you think anyone is NOT entitled to healthcare no matter who they are and from where they are?
You think I haven't contributed to the UK? You don't even know who I am or what my history is... glad you are laughing out loud at my basic and human need for health and medical care.
jerk!
You think I haven't contributed to the UK? You don't even know who I am or what my history is... glad you are laughing out loud at my basic and human need for health and medical care.
jerk!
Well read the rules at DWP about transferring your healthcare abroad, if you didn`t have it in the UK how the hell can you transfer it to another country.
Why didn`t you tell us you have paid into the system in the UK then during your stays there, although if you have only just got a UK passport did you work on a visa ?
Can I buy a house in the USA and use their healthcare in Spain ?
Jun 6th 2009, 7:37 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
The story has so many holes its almost a tube.
Last edited by livit; Jun 6th 2009 at 7:55 am.
Jun 6th 2009, 8:40 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
To the OP: your reciprocal entitlement to an E102 (which would cover you for up to 2 years free state healthcare in Spain) depends on your National Insurance contributions as a working or legitimately unemployed resident of the UK in the period IMMEDIATELY before leaving the UK to live abroad.
Jun 6th 2009, 9:24 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
Your story seems to have changed recently.
On April 23 rd you wrote this below;
How to apply for UK citizenship when in California? Please Help!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
I am completely new to this site so I am still figuring things out.
I am moving to London in June and I need to apply for my UK citizenship before I get there. Currently I am in California. My parents who are quite old are returning to their house near London in December and I will help take care of them.
I was born in 1984 in the US. My father is British and my mother is from the US. I am pretty sure I am eligible for my UK citizenship, but it is a bit daunting to figure out what exactly to do and how to execute this task in a efficient, timely, and successful manner.
Specific questions I have are
Which application do I fill out?
What are referees?
Do I need to have lived already in the UK in order to apply? It seems to suggest that I do.
Are their people who can help me fill out the application or review it before I submit it?
Do you have any other advice for me?
Thanks,
Phoebe
Now your moving to Spain with a Spanish partner ?
So which is it, London with parents who need help or Spain with Spanish partner.
On April 23 rd you wrote this below;
How to apply for UK citizenship when in California? Please Help!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
I am completely new to this site so I am still figuring things out.
I am moving to London in June and I need to apply for my UK citizenship before I get there. Currently I am in California. My parents who are quite old are returning to their house near London in December and I will help take care of them.
I was born in 1984 in the US. My father is British and my mother is from the US. I am pretty sure I am eligible for my UK citizenship, but it is a bit daunting to figure out what exactly to do and how to execute this task in a efficient, timely, and successful manner.
Specific questions I have are
Which application do I fill out?
What are referees?
Do I need to have lived already in the UK in order to apply? It seems to suggest that I do.
Are their people who can help me fill out the application or review it before I submit it?
Do you have any other advice for me?
Thanks,
Phoebe
Now your moving to Spain with a Spanish partner ?
So which is it, London with parents who need help or Spain with Spanish partner.
Last edited by livit; Jun 6th 2009 at 9:28 am.
Jun 6th 2009, 9:47 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
Your story seems to have changed recently.
On April 23 rd you wrote this below;
How to apply for UK citizenship when in California? Please Help!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
I am completely new to this site so I am still figuring things out.
I am moving to London in June and I need to apply for my UK citizenship before I get there. Currently I am in California. My parents who are quite old are returning to their house near London in December and I will help take care of them.
I was born in 1984 in the US. My father is British and my mother is from the US. I am pretty sure I am eligible for my UK citizenship, but it is a bit daunting to figure out what exactly to do and how to execute this task in a efficient, timely, and successful manner.
Specific questions I have are
Which application do I fill out?
What are referees?
Do I need to have lived already in the UK in order to apply? It seems to suggest that I do.
Are their people who can help me fill out the application or review it before I submit it?
Do you have any other advice for me?
Thanks,
Phoebe
Now your moving to Spain with a Spanish partner ?
So which is it, London with parents who need help or Spain with Spanish partner.
On April 23 rd you wrote this below;
How to apply for UK citizenship when in California? Please Help!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
I am completely new to this site so I am still figuring things out.
I am moving to London in June and I need to apply for my UK citizenship before I get there. Currently I am in California. My parents who are quite old are returning to their house near London in December and I will help take care of them.
I was born in 1984 in the US. My father is British and my mother is from the US. I am pretty sure I am eligible for my UK citizenship, but it is a bit daunting to figure out what exactly to do and how to execute this task in a efficient, timely, and successful manner.
Specific questions I have are
Which application do I fill out?
What are referees?
Do I need to have lived already in the UK in order to apply? It seems to suggest that I do.
Are their people who can help me fill out the application or review it before I submit it?
Do you have any other advice for me?
Thanks,
Phoebe
Now your moving to Spain with a Spanish partner ?
So which is it, London with parents who need help or Spain with Spanish partner.
Jun 6th 2009, 9:56 am
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Re: healthcare in spain
You are also not eligble for UK passport if born after 1st January 1983, you could be if your mummy was British.
See these rules from Border Agency
Children born to British subjects
British subjects
This page explains the circumstances in which British subjects can pass on that status to their children.
British subjects normally cannot pass on that status to their children if the children were born after 1 January 1983. But a child may be a British subject when he/she is born if:
■one of the parents is a British subject; and
■neither of the parents is a British citizen, a British overseas territories citizen or a British overseas citizen; and
■the child was born on or after 1 January 1983 in the United Kingdom or a British overseas territory; and
■the child would be stateless without British subject status.
See these rules from Border Agency
Children born to British subjects
British subjects
This page explains the circumstances in which British subjects can pass on that status to their children.
British subjects normally cannot pass on that status to their children if the children were born after 1 January 1983. But a child may be a British subject when he/she is born if:
■one of the parents is a British subject; and
■neither of the parents is a British citizen, a British overseas territories citizen or a British overseas citizen; and
■the child was born on or after 1 January 1983 in the United Kingdom or a British overseas territory; and
■the child would be stateless without British subject status.