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Old May 11th 2011, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by snikpoh View Post
Oh yes they are - residents with only an EHIC card are now being turned away unless it's an emergency. I agree that the EHIC can be used for temporary visits abroad (I stated this in my previous post).

It's also the rules that you SHOULD get a residencia if you have left the UK to live here.

I can't belive that you are advocating breaking so many Spanish rules
Why put off people that want to come to Spain by trumpeting rules that very few people bother with?

All you need as a fellow EU citizen is your passport and money to sustain yourself. It would be sensible to rent for quite a while and if you want to bring your car you've got at least six months before deciding what to do about it. Or much longer if you're sensible.

On behalf of neighbourhood watch and the Help organisation, I liaise with the Guardia Civil, local police, town halls, health centres, social security offices, etc on practically a daily basis. They've never even heard of the rules that we discuss frequently. I've never heard of anyone prosecuted for not having residencia or not signing on the Padron, and in the unfortunate circumstances of needing emergency hospital treatment you should have your EHIC. But if you've got nothing at all, they will still treat you.

You will need to return to the UK if you need ongoing treatment. Or pay for it.
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Why put off people that want to come to Spain by trumpeting rules that very few people bother with?

All you need as a fellow EU citizen is your passport and money to sustain yourself. It would be sensible to rent for quite a while and if you want to bring your car you've got at least six months before deciding what to do about it. Or much longer if you're sensible.

On behalf of neighbourhood watch and the Help organisation, I liaise with the Guardia Civil, local police, town halls, health centres, social security offices, etc on practically a daily basis. They've never even heard of the rules that we discuss frequently. I've never heard of anyone prosecuted for not having residencia or not signing on the Padron, and in the unfortunate circumstances of needing emergency hospital treatment you should have your EHIC. But if you've got nothing at all, they will still treat you.

You will need to return to the UK if you need ongoing treatment. Or pay for it.
I know someone (a child) who was turned away from the new Denia hospital - they didn't have an EHIC card, nor the money to pay (I think they wanted a couple of hundred at urgencias before they would let them through the door)

they later returned with the money & were seen

the child had a broken arm
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Why put off people that want to come to Spain by trumpeting rules that very few people bother with?

There will always be cheats and I am sure they dont need false information and encouragement from anyone here.

Potential newcomers should be left in no doubt that insufficient health cover is not the way to go when living here.

I have personally witnessed injured people being sent away from urgencias in Valencia and in one case being escorted out by armed guards when all they had was a British passport and no EHIC. They were told to go to the private hospital opposite and pay !
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Hi, Im 60 & looking to relocate to Spain from England with my Youngest daughter ( age 16). I want to know how to enter the healthcare system. Because I have diabetes & Arthritis I need to know that I am fully covered. My daughter wants to work part time or go to college part time.
Ive already had conflicting info re the above.

We want to relocate to around Alicante.

Many thanks
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I would just like to say that the Work/college part time might not be so easy.
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It also does NOT cover major issues which might require continual treatment.
I think you will find it covers any treatment that may be necessary while you are away from the UK.

It covers chronic illnesses and even regular dialysis is covered.
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I would just like to say that the Work/college part time might not be so easy.
that is also true


& come to think of it, the way it's worded on the link I gave to the Widowed Parent's Allowance - if she is no longer eligible to have child benefit - which would normally stop if the child no longer has a parent in the UK - then the Widowed Parent's Allowance would also stop


very confusing
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I think you will find it covers any treatment that may be necessary while you are away from the UK.

It covers chronic illnesses and even regular dialysis is covered.
Whilst in theory you might be correct - in practice you're not (unfortunately).

When I spoke to the health department this morning, she made it very clear that the EHIC card did NOT cover on-going care. I gave the example of my back and she was adamant that an operation was not covered by the EHIC.


This has been borne out by many people that we have helped (language wise) when they were told to (basically) go home to get the full treatment.
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Originally Posted by snikpoh View Post
Whilst in theory you might be correct - in practice you're not (unfortunately).

When I spoke to the health department this morning, she made it very clear that the EHIC card did NOT cover on-going care. I gave the example of my back and she was adamant that an operation was not covered by the EHIC.


This has been borne out by many people that we have helped (language wise) when they were told to (basically) go home to get the full treatment.
Iirc it also covers giving birth ..................
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Iirc it also covers giving birth ..................
In theory maybe but unless the woman can get them to issue a temporary SIP Card they wont unless its about to give birth.

I know an English woman married to a ducker and diver who tried to get pre-natal care but was turned away and eventually had to go to nearest town and register there as an itinerant immigrant.
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Yes in theory but we all know that different health centres/hospitals have their own way of dealing with EHIC patients. It may work whilst resident but do you want the risk of waiting to find out when it's urgent. There was an ex-bar owner on the CDS who had to return to the UK when he was seriously ill and barely fit to travel after being refused further treatment. I wouldn't want to live with the uncertainty.
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Originally Posted by snikpoh View Post
Whilst in theory you might be correct - in practice you're not (unfortunately).

When I spoke to the health department this morning, she made it very clear that the EHIC card did NOT cover on-going care. I gave the example of my back and she was adamant that an operation was not covered by the EHIC.


This has been borne out by many people that we have helped (language wise) when they were told to (basically) go home to get the full treatment.
ive really started something here, havent i ? Its as I have already said, I have been given conflicting answers from various people both Lay & professional. Its not as straight forward as most people think. However i have had contact from someone at the Spanish embassy who was very helpful.

I think this site is excellent & will continue to use it - even when I move to Spain with my daughter. Many thanks to you all.
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Originally Posted by snikpoh View Post
Whilst in theory you might be correct - in practice you're not (unfortunately).

When I spoke to the health department this morning, she made it very clear that the EHIC card did NOT cover on-going care. I gave the example of my back and she was adamant that an operation was not covered by the EHIC.


This has been borne out by many people that we have helped (language wise) when they were told to (basically) go home to get the full treatment.
In response to your post where you said:

It also does NOT cover major issues which might require continual treatment.

I referred to treatment for such ongoing chronic medical conditions which are covered (unless the local hospital chooses to ignore the law yet again!).

Unless it is an emergency a back operation would probably not be covered.

These are the areas that are covered (in theory!).

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthc...iscovered.aspx

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I've forgotten the name of it, but hospital emergency costs are covered by an emergency fund for destitute people, wherever they come from.

On top of that, Spanish medical staff have a 'duty of care', just the same as in the UK, and financial considerations don't come into it.

Backache, toothache and bellyache are not emergencies.

Another point: You can take the safety precautions for possible illnesses too far if contemplating a move to Spain. It's sensible to have appropriate cover, of course it is, but even the top BUPA policy won't help you if some higher power decides that your time is up.
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