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Pocaloca Jan 16th 2013 1:23 am

Guardiola as England Manager?
 
So that's why he's been in the States learning English since he left Barça!

I wonder what lucky club will get him. Or even the national side? He could never become Spain's manager cos he's a Catalan ...

Pep Guardiola: Former Barcelona boss wants to manage in England

cricketman Jan 16th 2013 1:30 am

Re: Guardiola as England Manager?
 

Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10486408)
So that's why he's been in the States learning English since he left Barça!

I wonder what lucky club will get him. Or even the national side? He could never become Spain's manager cos he's a Catalan ...

Pep Guardiola: Former Barcelona boss wants to manage in England

He already spoke English beforehand

I doubt that Guardiola will do well managing in England, his style and philosophy is based on technically and tactically excellent players, not leg-breakers who run around like headless chickens. His best players came from the youth team and he made dreadful signings, where will all these amazing young English footballers come from for him to get the best out of?

Still, he'll sign a 5 year contract worth 40 million or so and get sacked after one season

Tito is doing amazingly well at Barcelona without Guardiola, he is somewhat more pragmatic. Barcelona with Guardiola would never cross the ball in the air or shoot from outside the box, so when they weren't playing 100% then became a bit predictable

Still, Guardiola has transformed football - and certainly Spanish football over the past 4 years. Nothing has changed in England though, the players will look at him like an alien and not understand a word he says, even in English!

davidinspain Jan 16th 2013 1:36 am

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Everton's next manager.......taps nose;)

steviedeluxe Jan 16th 2013 1:47 am

Re: Guardiola as England Manager?
 

Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10486408)
So that's why he's been in the States learning English since he left Barça!

I wonder what lucky club will get him. Or even the national side? He could never become Spain's manager cos he's a Catalan ...

Bit of a silly statement, given they've had Catalan managers in the past

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domingo_Balmanya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Artigas

Of course more recently although there have been Basque managers of Spain, there have not really been contenders from Barcelona - remember a lot of their bosses have been foreigners (Cryuff, El Tel, Robson, Rikyard etc)

As for Pep, may seem a bit churlish to say this, but has he really proven himself as a manager? The players he inherited at Barcelona, the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi - well he'd have really needed to do badly to mess up with them! (actually, didn't they fail to win either La Liga or the Euro Champs last season)?

I'd like to see him do well at another club (even one with 100s of millions to spend) before making a judgement on his capabilities.

steviedeluxe Jan 16th 2013 1:49 am

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Originally Posted by Daveinspain (Post 10486429)
Everton's next manager.......taps nose;)

That would be a stern test of his capabilities. Be nice to see.
I think he'll plump for a club with big-spending powers.

shirley and anthony hide Jan 16th 2013 1:52 am

Re: Guardiola as England Manager?
 
[QUOTE=cricketman;10486425]He already spoke English beforehand

I doubt that Guardiola will do well managing in England, his style and philosophy is based on technically and tactically excellent players, not leg-breakers who run around like headless chickens. His best players came from the youth team and he made dreadful signings, where will all these amazing young English footballers come from for him to get the best out of?


Who would these headless chicken leg breakers be? Over 65% of Premiership players are foreign.

cricketman Jan 16th 2013 1:54 am

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 10486441)
(actually, didn't they fail to win either La Liga or the Euro Champs last season)?

Yes but they had won them all the year before. Barcelona find it hard to win 2 CLs in a row, they're my bet for this year though

Guardiola looked knackered last year. Mourinho (the very antithesis of Guardiola) had worn him out with his constant sniping and bad sportsmanship

What Guardiola did which other modern managers do not, is he opted for the youth team, but Barcelona has the best youth team in the world by a long long way, so any new club he goes to will be a completely different challenge

cricketman Jan 16th 2013 1:56 am

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[QUOTE=shirley and anthony hide;10486454]

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10486425)
He

Who would these headless chicken leg breakers be? Over 65% of Premiership players are foreign.

Who said foreign players can't be headless chicken leg breakers? That's what the managers ask of them. People who were moderately talented in Spain e.g. Mata, David Silva, Cazorla and Michu all of a sudden are seen as multi-talented demi-Gods when they get to the Premiership

Those players are in England because they weren't good enough to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid

shirley and anthony hide Jan 16th 2013 2:08 am

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[QUOTE=cricketman;10486457]

Originally Posted by shirley and anthony hide (Post 10486454)

Who said foreign players can't be headless chicken leg breakers? That's what the managers ask of them. People who were moderately talented in Spain e.g. Mata, David Silva, Cazorla and Michu all of a sudden are seen as multi-talented demi-Gods when they get to the Premiership

Those players are in England because they weren't good enough to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid

Well Mata and Silva were deemed good enough to play for Spain.
No, they are in England because they are geting paid a lot more than they would in Spain.Take away Barca and Madrid and Spanish football is pretty average.

Domino Jan 16th 2013 2:09 am

Re: Guardiola as England Manager?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10486425)
He already spoke English beforehand

I doubt that Guardiola will do well managing in England, his style and philosophy is based on technically and tactically excellent players, not leg-breakers who run around like headless chickens. His best players came from the youth team and he made dreadful signings, where will all these amazing young English footballers come from for him to get the best out of?

Still, he'll sign a 5 year contract worth 40 million or so and get sacked after one season

Tito is doing amazingly well at Barcelona without Guardiola, he is somewhat more pragmatic. Barcelona with Guardiola would never cross the ball in the air or shoot from outside the box, so when they weren't playing 100% then became a bit predictable

Still, Guardiola has transformed football - and certainly Spanish football over the past 4 years. Nothing has changed in England though, the players will look at him like an alien and not understand a word he says, even in English!

I know the feeling, when I say things in Spanish all I get is funny looks - think they are just waiting for me to speak in English and miss what I say.
:rofl:

cricketman Jan 16th 2013 3:35 am

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Just seen Pep's gone to Bayern Munich

A smart decision for all concerned, and if it goes well then I can see German football improving off the back of this. Germany has the right morals and infrastructure for Pep. England does not

agoreira Jan 16th 2013 3:53 am

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I don't think Guardiola has been in the job long enough to be hailed as great, or anywhere near it. He inherited probably the best club in the world, failure would have been difficult. The hard work had been done previously, to build the team up, all he had to do was field more or less the same team. He didn't look that good when Barca failed to beat a 10 man Chelsea on their own patch, that should have been a banker. Given time he might turn out to be treat, but he certainly hasn't done enough the warrant that title yet.

Dick Dasterdly Jan 16th 2013 3:54 am

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No surprise there.

I knew he didn't have the bottle to take on a real a job in the pressurehouse that is the Prem.

Unfortunately Cman the cut and thrust of English football, the real mans game, is what the whole world loves to watch.

Worldwide demand, viewing figures and income prove this way beyond any doubt.

Apart from the two tippy tappy classicos La Liga is just about as boring and predictable as footy can be.

Pocaloca Jan 16th 2013 4:22 am

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10486425)
He already spoke English beforehand

Pep Guardiola acaba de iniciar su nueva vida en Nueva York

"Guardiola dedicará su tiempo a perfeccionar su inglés ..."

I wonder how good his German is? :D

cricketman Jan 16th 2013 4:44 am

Re: Guardiola as England Manager?
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10486690)
No surprise there.

I knew he didn't have the bottle to take on a real a job in the pressurehouse that is the Prem.

Unfortunately Cman the cut and thrust of English football, the real mans game, is what the whole world loves to watch.

Worldwide demand, viewing figures and income prove this way beyond any doubt.

Apart from the two tippy tappy classicos La Liga is just about as boring and predictable as footy can be.

And yet the 11 best players in the world as voted by their fellow professionals, all play in Spain - and 6 of them are Spanish


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