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evans87 Jun 10th 2013 1:12 am

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i have a low budget at the moment of around £75k and would love the coast but would also love a inland village but not much further than 15/20 miles from the coast and inbetween two airports just trying to get it down for the best places to fly out to for holiday trials :)

northend Jun 10th 2013 6:40 am

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You can't go wrong with Murcia. 30 minutes to two airports, San Javier and Alicante and superb hospitals and beaches. Property prices not to bad either. We moved here 5 years ago and love the place.

evans87 Jun 10th 2013 6:42 am

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750294)
You can't go wrong with Murcia. 30 minutes to two airports, San Javier and Alicante and superb hospitals and beaches. Property prices not to bad either. We moved here 5 years ago and love the place.

murcia was one that we have been doing alot of research on as it goes the hospital is a good rhing also as my son has arthritus so if anything ever happend we would be ok

northend Jun 10th 2013 7:03 am

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My wife has arthritus that is the main reason we chose this area. An added benefit is the mud baths at Lo Pagan which are also said to help. Since being here my wife has had a knee replacement in a Spanish hospital which was great. No waiting list unlike the UK. I can thoroughly recommend this area. We live inland in a small village with a mixture of Spanish and English residents. Not a legoland house in sight thank god. Good hunting. I can recommend a good agent who deals with Bank Repossessions if you want. That's where the real deals are.

evans87 Jun 10th 2013 7:06 am

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yes that would be brilliant could you please message me over the agents details please? thanks

Domino Jun 10th 2013 7:26 am

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Originally Posted by evans87 (Post 10749746)
i have a low budget at the moment of around £75k and would love the coast but would also love a inland village but not much further than 15/20 miles from the coast and inbetween two airports just trying to get it down for the best places to fly out to for holiday trials :)


Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750294)
You can't go wrong with Murcia. 30 minutes to two airports, San Javier and Alicante and superb hospitals and beaches. Property prices not to bad either. We moved here 5 years ago and love the place.

I know prices have dropped but not by that much :huh:
you really won't get much for that price unless you are prepared to do a lot of rebuild work

As to Murcia, be very careful, do not use local solcitors, use either a Spanish solicitor in the UK or someone from quite a way outside the area you intend buying. Seems they get too cosy with the seller/agent/town hall and skimp on the checking of docs and legality of properties.
there are over 15,000 illegal properties in Almeria and quite a large number in Murcia, probably well in excess of 5,000 around the city of Murcia, with several thousands in outlying areas.

It is a minefield. Do not trust local solicitors, do not trust local estate agents, do not trust the vendor - they only want to get out as quickly as possible once they can find someone mug enough to pay the asking price or near to.
and remember that any insurance policy that may offered to you along the way, unless you can corroborate its legality (haha), is not worth the paper it has been printed on.

caveat emptor.
:thumbdown:

northend Jun 10th 2013 8:44 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10750363)
I know prices have dropped but not by that much :huh:
you really won't get much for that price unless you are prepared to do a lot of rebuild work

As to Murcia, be very careful, do not use local solcitors, use either a Spanish solicitor in the UK or someone from quite a way outside the area you intend buying. Seems they get too cosy with the seller/agent/town hall and skimp on the checking of docs and legality of properties.
there are over 15,000 illegal properties in Almeria and quite a large number in Murcia, probably well in excess of 5,000 around the city of Murcia, with several thousands in outlying areas.

It is a minefield. Do not trust local solicitors, do not trust local estate agents, do not trust the vendor - they only want to get out as quickly as possible once they can find someone mug enough to pay the asking price or near to.
and remember that any insurance policy that may offered to you along the way, unless you can corroborate its legality (haha), is not worth the paper it has been printed on.

caveat emptor.
:thumbdown:

Well well Domino what a blinkered view you have. I've heard many of the comments you made in the bars frequented by expats usually at closing time when they have had more than their fill. You really like the sound of your own voice don't you - 8791 posts since June 2011 - do you never sleep? As you say let the buyer beware but don't try to frighten everyone off.

jennieJ Jun 10th 2013 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750476)
Well well Domino what a blinkered view you have. I've heard many of the comments you made in the bars frequented by expats usually at closing time when they have had more than their fill. You really like the sound of your own voice don't you - 8791 posts since June 2011 - do you never sleep? As you say let the buyer beware but don't try to frighten everyone off.

But surely it is much better to warn people so that they know the possible pitfalls?

It's hardly drunken bar-room speak like you are implying. It's just common sense advice that you would read on any expat forum, where people have come for advice.

Nothing radical, just the truth. People need to know what to look out for.

me me Jun 10th 2013 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750476)
Well well Domino what a blinkered view you have. I've heard many of the comments you made in the bars frequented by expats usually at closing time when they have had more than their fill. You really like the sound of your own voice don't you - 8791 posts since June 2011 - do you never sleep? As you say let the buyer beware but don't try to frighten everyone off.

:confused:

How do you make that out?

They are letters on a screen.....How can it be compared to liking the sound of your own voice?

Relampago Jun 10th 2013 11:14 am

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Spain has many beautiful places, but like Murcia it is the place that more I know...The small region has of everything: orchards, seaboard, high mountain, steppes, etc etc etc. And I believe that good air communications with UK
http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...untitled27.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PVVX3aNT81...spu%C3%B1a.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iX2aFx5wpH...volcadores.JPG
http://www.spanishforadults.co.uk/pi...l_of_kites.jpg
http://www.roomsday.com/blog/wp-cont...-Mar-Menor.jpg
http://www.alsa.es/destinos/fotos-al...-mar-menor.jpg
http://www.ciezaturistica.org/portal.../0_19256_1.jpg
http://www.ciezaturistica.org/portal.../0_19253_1.jpg

HBG Jun 10th 2013 5:58 pm

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750476)
Well well Domino what a blinkered view you have. I've heard many of the comments you made in the bars frequented by expats usually at closing time when they have had more than their fill. You really like the sound of your own voice don't you - 8791 posts since June 2011 - do you never sleep? As you say let the buyer beware but don't try to frighten everyone off.

The OP and any others would be much better off to read the posts by Domino rather than by someone who is offering to supply the details of an agent who deals in repossessions.

It is dangerous nonsense to suggest that repossessions are where the best deals are.

And it should be pointed out that if you buy in Spain at this time you are buying into a falling market.

And if you've bought in Spain during the last five years, you would know that.

bobd22 Jun 10th 2013 7:34 pm

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750476)
Well well Domino what a blinkered view you have. I've heard many of the comments you made in the bars frequented by expats usually at closing time when they have had more than their fill. You really like the sound of your own voice don't you - 8791 posts since June 2011 - do you never sleep? As you say let the buyer beware but don't try to frighten everyone off.

I think to criticise someone for the amount of posts they make on a forum is somewhat strange surely that is what a forum is for air ones views, pass on valuable information to prevent people making errors you may have made, Help people with suggestions and even just as a means of friendly banter between people from your homeland. Domino I know has certainly passed information that I have found useful and some banter as well. What is said in Dominos post is sound information which may be why you often hear it said by expats in bars or anywhere else but it is sound advice if not just common sense and applies in any area of Spain. Of course one could listen to the sober opposite view from the estate agent who will have no self interest of course.

Relampago nice photos

angiescarr Jun 10th 2013 8:02 pm

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750476)
Well well Domino what a blinkered view you have. I've heard many of the comments you made in the bars frequented by expats usually at closing time when they have had more than their fill. You really like the sound of your own voice don't you - 8791 posts since June 2011 - do you never sleep? As you say let the buyer beware but don't try to frighten everyone off.

Well that's the thanks you get! Domino is trying to help. Please feel free to ignore him. There is one born every day. @ Domino...we've got another one ;-)

Domino Jun 10th 2013 8:05 pm

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750476)
Well well Domino what a blinkered view you have. I've heard many of the comments you made in the bars frequented by expats usually at closing time when they have had more than their fill. You really like the sound of your own voice don't you - 8791 posts since June 2011 - do you never sleep? As you say let the buyer beware but don't try to frighten everyone off.

so by using obfuscation you hope to hide the deplorable fact that not only have a huge number of people been sold illegal properties but that it is still going on.
Estate Agents make no statement about the legal status of the property they are selling, in fact they are so desperate that those I have met seem to want to push it behind them.
Vendors are obviously not going to say their luvverly home is illegal, they don't have all the paperwork, just sit there with fingers crossed that someone will come along and not bother with checking the paperwork.
Solicitors only doing part of the job, giving backhanders to the Estate Agents who refer them business, giving the go ahead for a property purchase that will take all the money an elderly couple have.
Town Halls that have issued building licences and occupation certificates knowing full well that properties are being built on rural land that isn't included in the urbanisation plans for the next 20 years and because of its situation can never be urbanised. And then fine and embargo the buyer and take money from their bank accounts.
Builders/Developers who build properties, get a buyer moved in but never pay the electricity or water infrastructure charges to the utilities leaving the buyer to pay it all over again - if they can afford it.

Specifically as to Murcia
http://expatdirectory.telegraph.co.u...valle-del-sol/

http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.co...-under-threat/

http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.co...be-liquidated/

So northend - just what are you - a seller? an estate agent? a builder?
And why as this has been known about for well over 10 years has it been allowed to carry on under the blanket?
Just remember that even if you should buy an illegal property, in Spain you take on the responsibilities of the previous owner and you have no defence when the bulldozer comes round to start on your house.

Just ask Mr & Mrs Prior.

Domino Jun 10th 2013 8:48 pm

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Originally Posted by northend (Post 10750294)
You can't go wrong with Murcia. 30 minutes to two airports, San Javier and Alicante and superb hospitals and beaches. Property prices not to bad either. We moved here 5 years ago and love the place.

just out of interest I took a little bit of my precious BE time :rofl:
on your behalf and guess what I found
http://www.anticorruption-online.org...canada-hermosa
which refers to illegal properties in Canada de San Pedro.
as does
http://www.theleader.info/220/articl...coastal-homes/

enjoy
:fingerscrossed:


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