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So A & M, what are you suggesting, the neighbour shouldnt have built? What were they to do, sell the plot for a pitance and lose all the money they spent on architects and getting permission to build?

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No I really don't think it should. This point has been raised before and it is daft for two reasons. Firstly everybody is in agreement that the noise has become much worse recently especially over this summer and secondly and more importantly because the loss was already there. The plot was worth less than they had paid.......

I just don't see any relevance at all in that point. Some of the points made I do. But that, no.

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Hi Bryony - you know that I respect your opinion and knowledge on things with CE. Yes you've mentioned it before, on another thread, but then we hear a different opinion.

So, I've heard 2 stories and posted them both earlier. I also said that I didn't know the answer. This thread confirms that there is confusion about this. People 'in the know' are not in agreement... even now. There is a differing opinion also voiced - from someone very connected.

As a 'non-expert forum observer' to this particular historical detail, I was curious who was right. The fact that it has been raised before - more than once - means that someone thinks its important, and so it sparked my curiosity. I openly don't know the historical detail - hence the question.

But its just curiosity on my part. It's not that important in the 'scheme of things' - and we are left with a bigger issue.. (Putting history aside) the loss of what I feel is the only 'proper' resto/bar in CE and the only regular and scheduled entertainment spot in CE - that served hundreds of people and leaves us just 2 places remaining in our huge complex. A local shop and a golf club. And theres a big problem with the financial position of the golf course - that could affect even that!

As I mentioned, we are not huge customers of Jag's - e.g eating local food in the neighbouring area most of the time. But love to eat there from time to time, and have a drink on the great terrace - even after midnight! But whilst I fully understand the neighbours position, the bottom line remains that we as a CE-community have lost the top spot that welcomed lots of people - it employed people as well.... and a great location. Bryony you are not a fan of Jags so wont agree, and that's just fine, he wont get your hard-earned money.

Whether he traded properly or not, the bottom line is that we have lost it. I hope the council will quickly make a decision - whatever it is - so we know the result.

Thanks

Jon

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Blimey - I don't know who to believe on this one... and even the word 'beginning' has connotations, depending at which point you want to read this thread. And its probably not that important! As mentioned in my last post.

This was mentioned in another post on this thread from someone I have the highest faith in regarding 'matters-CE'

What this shows me is the old adage 'no-one has a monopoly on the truth'. :confused:

In my case 'blissful ignorance' may be the best policy on some of these smaller (?) issues :nod: :unsure:

Jon

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The beginning comes about three years before you are willing to listen about. It really is quite simple and I am struggling to understand why you are finding it so difficult to grasp this point..... Where is this other opinion that disagrees? I don't see it anywhere on here?

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So is there any evidence that the 'ground rules' keep changing? It doesn't look as if there is?

It seems that you are denouncing the local authority purely on hearsay and you have done this extensively in relation to Jags (I accept hat there may be other problems). In fact you seem to blame them more than anybody else and yet have no evidence to suggest they have done anything wrong in this matter.....

Is there any evidence of there wrongdoing to the restaurant?

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My point had no relevance to me knowing the answer. I don't know whether these 'ground rules' keep changing. People on here keep blaming the town hall and have used that expression quite extensively. Nobody has given any indication as to why and how the rules change though? If they do I'd like to hear it because that is unfair but if not I don't think it is right to keep tarring their name. It could affect support for other issues.

It does seem a little like a smokescreen and therefore very unfair on the authorities

'Smaller issues?' can I take that for code meaning that you agree that I'm right? ;)

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Wouah - thanks for your judgement on my inability to listen. You are of course welcome to your opinion - but I can assure you the old lug-holes and the engine driving them, work fine thanks!

Read through the thread again, its all there in the posts somewhere -(otherwise I wouldn't have posted on it myself) you will see that someone who knows the neighbours and is very knowledgeable has a different opinion to yours.

Perhaps you are uncomfortable with a contrary opinion?

Either way I'm out of it now - its not that important! Wish I hadn't said anything! - I've have not had a definitive answer and am fine to remain blissfully ignorant. Perhaps I haven't posed my question/posts well, my lack of practice in English is more likely to be a problem, than the old ear 'oles and the grey(ing) matter :)

The important thing is actually the loss of the major venue on CE and now the golf course being in major financial difficulties. With a LOT depending on that.

We'll have a beer and laugh all about it another time (very soon hopefully)

Jon

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Couldn't agree more. I actually would be quite happy if he gets the permission. With a little less music and a little more social responsibility. As I have said before I have no direct involvement and only got involved because the 'Jag Gang' are so blinkered to other peoples positions.

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I really don't think there is.....

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Hi MT: As I said I'm out of it - lets just agree to disagree. Understand, please, that I think you and eg Bryony know much more than me about this subject, and many others, I am sure. I claimed ignorance of it right from the start... and happy to remain that way. NBD. :amen:

To bring it back to topic, anyone hearing news about the golf course and their financial issues, please let us know. This is hugely important for us on an already depleted development. So much depends on a fully functioning and financially viable golf course.

Since this thread has included Jags, if anyone hears the latest about the license application, please let us know.

Thanks for all the feedback - I don't think Ive ever had such a prolonged and concentrated usage of the forum! Getting excitable! Thankfully there are other threads and I'm sure many have shifted to them, in escaping from all this!:)

We are there soon (hence I am all excited about CE) and will be trying out new resto's and will report back on them - as usual. :thumbup:

Thanks
Jon

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I'm all for agreeing to disagree when it is necessary, however, on this occasion it isn't. All I asked you was to show me where this other opinion is; you've been plenty keen to express it on numerous occasions ....... So you see there is no reason to agree to disagree. It is either there or .... it ...... isn't?

Same with these 'ground rules'......

Did you see I agreed about it opening though! and delighted that you / CERA might be getting a meeting with the town hall? All good news.

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[QUOTE=Jon-Bxl;10314690]

So much [/B]depends on a fully functioning and financially viable golf course.

/QUOTE]

That is very very true! It would be better with two though.... Brings you back to the hotel.

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I've just had a quick read through and unfortunately that simply isn't true. You posted 26 times in this thread before claiming ignorance. Some of the posts were quite lengthy.

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I really don't think that this is the case Jon. Do you know anyone who is a member?