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lynnxa Jun 17th 2010 3:40 am

going rate for babysitters?
 
does anyone use babysitters?

not guarderias or crèches - the old fashioned kind who babysit at home for you when you have a night out!

what's the going hourly rate?

fionamw Jun 17th 2010 5:02 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8639075)
does anyone use babysitters?

not guarderias or crèches - the old fashioned kind who babysit at home for you when you have a night out!

what's the going hourly rate?

Sharp intake of breath when ours told me.... 8€. But she does do childcare for a living and is adult, and is Spanish which for me is infinitely preferable (I did get her by recommendation!) because 8yo gets Spanish at home!

manamama Jun 17th 2010 6:28 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 
On our last and only night out, we paid 10 euros per hour.

But she did have to look after 4 young children and she was a proper canguro.

JLFS Jun 17th 2010 6:57 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 
There are quite stict guidlines for baby sitting.....which comply with the EU rule. 1765 section A8



You have to take into consideration who is baby sitting for who (what age)


For example if I were to baby sit, for a fit 18 year old blonde girl I would charge a lot less (maybe free) than for looking after a spoilt 9 year old boy.
:rofl::rofl:

fionamw Jun 17th 2010 7:36 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8639469)
There are quite stict guidlines for baby sitting.....which comply with the EU rule. 1765 section A8



You have to take into consideration who is baby sitting for who (what age)


For example if I were to baby sit, for a fit 18 year old blonde girl I would charge a lot less (maybe free) than for looking after a spoilt 9 year old boy.
:rofl::rofl:

:rolleyes:;)

lynnxa Jun 17th 2010 7:39 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8639539)
:rolleyes:;)

:rolleyes:indeed

I googled the rule & can't find it

so is JLFS pulling my leg?

fionamw Jun 17th 2010 7:44 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8639545)
:rolleyes:indeed

I googled the rule & can't find it

so is JLFS pulling my leg?

I believe he might be, however stranger things have been produced by the ex's wallahs at the EU!

JLFS Jun 17th 2010 9:00 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8639545)
:rolleyes:indeed

I googled the rule & can't find it

so is JLFS pulling my leg?


YEP...........;)

lynnxa Jun 17th 2010 4:44 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8639660)
YEP...........;)

see - I'm awake both ends of the day sometimes:p

JLFS Jun 17th 2010 6:32 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8640236)
see - I'm awake both ends of the day sometimes:p


I can see that it would be difficult to pull the wool over your eyes, top of the morning ta ye.:D

lynnxa Jun 17th 2010 6:45 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8640359)
I can see that it would be difficult to pull the wool over your eyes, top of the morning ta ye.:D

& I still don't know what the going rate is !!

more than dog walking?


flat rate or rate per child/nappy change!?

JLFS Jun 17th 2010 6:54 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8640381)
& I still don't know what the going rate is !!

more than dog walking?


flat rate or rate per child/nappy change!?


I honestly have no idea but another solution to the baby sitter, is a sleep over, arrange for them to have a sleep over in a friends on the nigh that you want to go out and have one a your place on another night.... Depending on the ages and the friends it might work.......

cricketman Jun 17th 2010 7:20 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8640381)
& I still don't know what the going rate is !!

more than dog walking?


flat rate or rate per child/nappy change!?

I thought 2 people have said already? Looking on the Spanish forums it looks like the rate is between 7-11 euros per hour depending on where you live and how many children they have to look after.

JLFS Jun 17th 2010 9:10 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8640430)
]I thought 2 people have said already? Looking on the Spanish forums it looks like the rate is between 7-11 euros per hour depending on where you live and how many children they have to look after.

:thumbdown:

cricketman Jun 17th 2010 9:25 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8640595)
:thumbdown:

what's wrong with that? :blink:

JLFS Jun 17th 2010 9:33 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8640621)
what's wrong with that? :blink:

It seems abit sarky to me, the "I thought 2 people have said already" bit, does sound like you are saying, there is your answer, go away, end of thread.

It is a relatively new thread so it is not as if it has been doing the rounds for ages, and if the OP wants to delve in a little more, why not, what is the matter with that.

If the tread is of no interest to you why bother posting on it with a IMO a cutting comment, why not refrain from posting on that particular thread, there a loads of others to post on.

fionamw Jun 17th 2010 9:42 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 
Come on chaps, this isn't helping Lynn get her night out.... a couple of us did say, it's true (€8 in my case, €10 manamama) but OP might not have been quite as awake as she thought:rofl:... and of course rates probably vary from place to place so a few more suggestions could make all the difference. Sleepovers sound a good idea though. (for the kids, I mean:o)

manamama Jun 17th 2010 10:12 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 
I got my babysitter from my daughters guardaria.

Perhaps you could ask at one of your local guardarias and ask if they do this sort of service.

To look after your two girls who I think would be easy to look after (unlike my little ones) you'd be looking at paying 8 euros, a reasonable sum.

It cost us 50 euros in total so our night outs at the moment are once a year!!:rofl:

lynnxa Jun 17th 2010 11:48 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8640430)
I thought 2 people have said already? Looking on the Spanish forums it looks like the rate is between 7-11 euros per hour depending on where you live and how many children they have to look after.

thanks


we're actually thinking around 7 an hour


the person Fiona mentioned is a qualified child carer

I'm thinking more the neighbour/teen next door sort of arrangement

SaritaBarcelona Jun 18th 2010 10:58 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 
I think it depends on whether they can sit and watch TV all evening, or whether they are actually "looking after" and entertaining a child. I know it is still their time, but I think it allows some space for negotiation. The rate depends on whether they have to travel, too. I agree on the sleepover thing, or take it in turns with a trusted friend who has a child to babysit for one another's children.

lynnxa Jun 18th 2010 5:32 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8640646)
Come on chaps, this isn't helping Lynn get her night out.... a couple of us did say, it's true (€8 in my case, €10 manamama) but OP might not have been quite as awake as she thought:rofl:... and of course rates probably vary from place to place so a few more suggestions could make all the difference. Sleepovers sound a good idea though. (for the kids, I mean:o)

I can have a night out any time I like - my kids are old enough;)


a friend wants my teenage dd to babysit - & neither of us know what is a fair rate - both those rates were for people who are professional/qualified carers

maybe I should have been a little clearer - but to me a babysitter is not usually a professional carer:unsure:


Originally Posted by SaritaBarcelona (Post 8641970)
I think it depends on whether they can sit and watch TV all evening, or whether they are actually "looking after" and entertaining a child. I know it is still their time, but I think it allows some space for negotiation. The rate depends on whether they have to travel, too. I agree on the sleepover thing, or take it in turns with a trusted friend who has a child to babysit for one another's children.

yes, that's the point

she might just sit & watch tele all evening

but maybe one of the kids will wake up - need a nappy change - need entertaining

I used to do a lot of babysitting as a teenager - sometimes it was money for nothing - others it felt like slave labour - but you never know in advance..................................

fionamw Jun 18th 2010 5:50 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8642309)
I can have a night out any time I like - my kids are old enough;)
- but to me a babysitter is not usually a professional carer:unsure:
...........................

(i) :frown:Harrumph. Oh well, only another six years or so.....:lol:
(ii) Me too... we just struck 'lucky' with someone recommended
(iii) I'd say actually many if not most people almost expect the babysitter to flop in front of the tv & read or whatever; it's the possibility of needing more childcare that's maybe the only issue for the parents/sitter depending on how adept the sitter is. As to price, well obviously I can only guess but if, for example, €8 plus seems a more professional rate, how about starting out suggesting €5? Guess ultimately it's down to what your friend thinks is reasonable and you/dd1 think's not taking advantage.
Obviously as in the UK the rates usually go up after midnight, which in Spain might put the price up generally! Oh, and should include safe conduct home....

lynnxa Jun 18th 2010 6:03 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8642319)
(i) :frown:Harrumph. Oh well, only another six years or so.....:lol:
(ii) Me too... we just struck 'lucky' with someone recommended
(iii) I'd say actually many if not most people almost expect the babysitter to flop in front of the tv & read or whatever; it's the possibility of needing more childcare that's maybe the only issue for the parents/sitter depending on how adept the sitter is. As to price, well obviously I can only guess but if, for example, €8 plus seems a more professional rate, how about starting out suggesting €5? Guess ultimately it's down to what your friend thinks is reasonable and you/dd1 think's not taking advantage.
Obviously as in the UK the rates usually go up after midnight, which in Spain might put the price up generally! Oh, and should include safe conduct home....

thing is my friend has asked me what I think...........................:unsure:

I originally thought 5 til my dd pointed out that a friend of hers gets that for walking one dog - & this is 3 little kids so it should be more..........................


dd really wants to do this - she's brill with little kids - and is sensible/dependable enough

it's also just a couple of mins walk from home, so I could always help out if need be............................

fionamw Jun 18th 2010 6:21 pm

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Unfortunately I think the dogwalker is getting quite a lot so it reflects badly on realism. I was stumped, so googled and found a Feb 2010 post on a UK forum saying
they'd always paid £3.50 to neighbours' children, but would round up to £15 or £20 if closer to midnight getting home. They paid an 18 yo daughter of a friend £5....

Don't suppose that helps, though:unsure:

lynnxa Jun 18th 2010 6:26 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8642362)
Unfortunately I think the dogwalker is getting quite a lot so it reflects badly on realism. I was stumped, so googled and found a Feb 2010 post on a UK forum saying
they'd always paid £3.50 to neighbours' children, but would round up to £15 or £20 if closer to midnight getting home. They paid an 18 yo daughter of a friend £5....

Don't suppose that helps, though:unsure:

I did ask some friends in the UK, & they reckoned anything from 7.50 an hour to 20 for an evening & 5 more an hour after midnight.............


I think I know what I'll suggest now

Carol&John Jun 18th 2010 8:50 pm

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¡hola! Lynnxa,

Am I too late with my post? Have you made a decision? Your question has made me think - ouch!;)
I can only guess that your dd is under 16, well brought up, level headed, but professionally untrained in childcare? Well done to her for having thought about gaining experience in this area.
Nonetheless, it is right that a rate should be set for "first time babysitters", otherwise it devalues the young person.
(I believe that the "responsible" person here (legally) is the parent/s of the child when the babysitter is under the age of 16.)

Thought #1:
IMO, €20 for an evening is reasonable as this would mean charging the same for either an hour or 4 hours of babysitting. However, after midnight, I think the hourly rate should double to €10 per hour or fraction thereof.
The responsible adult should make it clear when he/she plans to return before the evening begins, and contact the babysitter immediately should he/she be late.
The babysitter then can decide afterwards whether or not this adult is reliable enough to babysit for another time.

Carol
P.S. How long before this thread is moved to siesta time?;)

lynnxa Jun 18th 2010 9:00 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by Carol&John (Post 8642537)
¡hola! Lynnxa,

Am I too late with my post? Have you made a decision? Your question has made me think - ouch!;)
I can only guess that your dd is under 16, well brought up, level headed, but professionally untrained in childcare? Well done to her for having thought about gaining experience in this area.
Nonetheless, it is right that a rate should be set for "first time babysitters", otherwise it devalues the young person.
(I believe that the "responsible" person here (legally) is the parent/s of the child when the babysitter is under the age of 16.)

Thought #1:
IMO, €20 for an evening is reasonable as this would mean charging the same for either an hour or 4 hours of babysitting. However, after midnight, I think the hourly rate should double to €10 per hour or fraction thereof.
The responsible adult should make it clear when he/she plans to return before the evening begins, and contact the babysitter immediately should he/she be late.
The babysitter then can decide afterwards whether or not this adult is reliable enough to babysit for another time.

Carol
P.S. How long before this thread is moved to siesta time?;)

sorry - hope your head doesn't hurt too much after thinking;)


it wasn't actually my dd's idea - she was approached - but it wouldn't hurt her to earn some pocket money from someone other than me - she has do chores at home to earn her pocket money as it is!


I have made my suggestion - not far off your suggestion in fact

we shall see - & yes, in retrospect it maybe should have gone in Siesta time:o

Carol&John Jun 18th 2010 9:11 pm

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:D Ah well, then it is you who deserves the praise! PMT = Proud Mama Time!(Applause, applause!)

lynnxa Jun 18th 2010 9:26 pm

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by Carol&John (Post 8642571)
:D Ah well, then it is you who deserves the praise! PMT = Proud Mama Time!(Applause, applause!)

we shall see - we haven't had this term's notas yet;)

jdr Jun 19th 2010 2:23 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8642367)
I did ask some friends in the UK, & they reckoned anything from 7.50 an hour to 20 for an evening & 5 more an hour after midnight.............


I think I know what I'll suggest now

But sitting time zones are totally different here, some don`t go out till they are usually coming home in the UK :D
Just think what you would sit for.

lynnxa Jun 19th 2010 4:05 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 8643008)
But sitting time zones are totally different here, some don`t go out till they are usually coming home in the UK :D
Just think what you would sit for.

true - but we're used to that now

and it's an English family who haven't been here long enough to be totally Spanishyfied yet!

cricketman Jun 19th 2010 4:29 am

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Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8643129)
true - but we're used to that now

and it's an English family who haven't been here long enough to be totally Spanishyfied yet!

If they were, they'd be taking their kids with them

Unless they're going clubbing :)

lynnxa Jun 19th 2010 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8643162)
If they were, they'd be taking their kids with them

Unless they're going clubbing :)

exactly - though even Spanish parents like to get out without the kids sometimes

but they tend to have the extended family on hand to babysit

SaritaBarcelona Jun 21st 2010 3:27 am

Re: going rate for babysitters?
 
Our "ex" (Spanish) babysitter in Barcelona would sit for our son until 1am watching the TV and then head out clubbing until 6am, so for her it was just the early part of her evening!


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