Fredbargate

Sticking a knife in Gibraltar's back as usual

He is calling for talks with the UK without Gibraltar being represented

EMR

As the future of Gib rests with agreements between the UK and Spain seems perfectly logical to me.

jimenato

Yup - who gives a toss what the people at the centre of the debate want anyway?

jimenato

According to The Telegraph he wants 4 sided talks...

EMR

The real Gibraltarians should be at the talks but the expats who have moved their to avoid tax , work for the online gambling companies and smuggle ( sorry ) supply the volume tabacco export industry have no place there.
They are just opportunists who would soon move on to the next haven.

Dick Dasterdly

Well there's progress at least.

After a zillion posts on a subject you obviously know nothing about, you finally admit that real Gibraltarians not only exist, but are due a certain degree of consideration.

Domino

ah I see you have managed to invent a way to communicate with people from a parallel universe.

perhaps a mongraph to Hawking and Einstein would be in order, more especially if they actually give a cogent reply.

EMR

The recent film on " real gibraltarians " painted a very different picture to that others suggest.
The " real Gibraltarians " seemd to regard Spain as being closer to them and they having more in common with the Spanish than the UK.
I suspect that the " new comers in Gib " are far more UK focused than those with a long history of living there.

jackytoo

Nevertheless, they all said they wished to remain BRITISH.

jimenato

And I think you are completely wrong.

I have actually spoken to 'real Gibraltarians', many of them, and I am telling you that they are vehemently, almost aggressively pro UK.

These are the guys who work in the shipyards, drive the buses and sweep the streets.

andyrich666

They really sweep the streets in Gibraltar ?

Fredbargate

Addressing delegates in New York, Mariano Rajoy said Gibraltar ‘affects’ Spain’s territorial integrity. He reiterated his call for the UK to enter bilateral dialogue over the Rock

All Rajoy wants is a diversion from Barcenas

Fredbargate

I'm no longer sweeping the streets but remember talking to you over lunch, so does that make me a real Gibbo or just someone someone wants to ignore

Dick Dasterdly

As badly as Spain affects Gibraltars integrity ?

I never cease to be amazed at just how much Spanish and other S.Eu politicians can get away with.

There's just a general public acceptance that they're all as bent as a donkeys hind leg, so what's the point in losing sleep over them.

jimenato

Real Gibraltarians don't have accents like you mate. We must do lunch again sometime. We don't come into Gib any more, too risky - we might not get let out, so let us know when you venture our way.