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Fredbargate Sep 25th 2013 11:43 pm

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by Maybe1day (Post 10916826)
What's Rajoy up to at the UN ???? Appears to have been snubbed by the EU !
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Sticking a knife in Gibraltar's back as usual

He is calling for talks with the UK without Gibraltar being represented

EMR Sep 25th 2013 11:50 pm

Re: Gibraltar
 
As the future of Gib rests with agreements between the UK and Spain seems perfectly logical to me.

jimenato Sep 26th 2013 12:27 am

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10918917)
As the future of Gib rests with agreements between the UK and Spain seems perfectly logical to me.

Yup - who gives a toss what the people at the centre of the debate want anyway?

jimenato Sep 26th 2013 12:29 am

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10918911)
Sticking a knife in Gibraltar's back as usual

He is calling for talks with the UK without Gibraltar being represented

According to The Telegraph he wants 4 sided talks...


Mr Rajoy's government proposes four-way talks, with Spain, Britain, Gibraltar and the regional government of Andalucia. Gibraltar, in contrast, wants three-way talks with representatives from the UK, Spain and its own government.

EMR Sep 26th 2013 1:38 am

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The real Gibraltarians should be at the talks but the expats who have moved their to avoid tax , work for the online gambling companies and smuggle ( sorry ) supply the volume tabacco export industry have no place there.
They are just opportunists who would soon move on to the next haven.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 26th 2013 1:46 am

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10919077)
The real Gibraltarians should be at the talks but the expats who have moved their to avoid tax , work for the online gambling companies and smuggle ( sorry ) supply the volume tabacco export industry have no place there.
They are just opportunists who would soon move on to the next haven.


Well there's progress at least. :thumbup:

After a zillion posts on a subject you obviously know nothing about, you finally admit that real Gibraltarians not only exist, but are due a certain degree of consideration. :cool:

Domino Sep 26th 2013 2:29 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10919092)
Well there's progress at least. :thumbup:

After a zillion posts on a subject you obviously know nothing about, you finally admit that real Gibraltarians not only exist, but are due a certain degree of consideration. :cool:

ah I see you have managed to invent a way to communicate with people from a parallel universe.:thumbsup:

perhaps a mongraph to Hawking and Einstein would be in order, more especially if they actually give a cogent reply.
:rofl:

EMR Sep 26th 2013 4:03 am

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The recent film on " real gibraltarians " painted a very different picture to that others suggest.
The " real Gibraltarians " seemd to regard Spain as being closer to them and they having more in common with the Spanish than the UK.
I suspect that the " new comers in Gib " are far more UK focused than those with a long history of living there.

jackytoo Sep 26th 2013 4:22 am

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Nevertheless, they all said they wished to remain BRITISH.

jimenato Sep 26th 2013 4:45 am

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10919263)
The recent film on " real gibraltarians " painted a very different picture to that others suggest.
The " real Gibraltarians " seemd to regard Spain as being closer to them and they having more in common with the Spanish than the UK.
I suspect that the " new comers in Gib " are far more UK focused than those with a long history of living there.

And I think you are completely wrong.

I have actually spoken to 'real Gibraltarians', many of them, and I am telling you that they are vehemently, almost aggressively pro UK.

These are the guys who work in the shipyards, drive the buses and sweep the streets.

andyrich666 Sep 26th 2013 6:52 am

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10919304)
And I think you are completely wrong.

I have actually spoken to 'real Gibraltarians', many of them, and I am telling you that they are vehemently, almost aggressively pro UK.

These are the guys who work in the shipyards, drive the buses and sweep the streets.

They really sweep the streets in Gibraltar ?

Fredbargate Sep 26th 2013 10:21 am

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10918965)
According to The Telegraph he wants 4 sided talks...

Addressing delegates in New York, Mariano Rajoy said Gibraltar ‘affects’ Spain’s territorial integrity. He reiterated his call for the UK to enter bilateral dialogue over the Rock

All Rajoy wants is a diversion from Barcenas

Fredbargate Sep 26th 2013 10:26 am

Re: Gibraltar
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10919304)
And I think you are completely wrong

I have actually spoken to 'real Gibraltarians', many of them, and I am telling you that they are vehemently, almost aggressively pro UK.

These are the guys who work in the shipyards, drive the buses and sweep the streets.

I'm no longer sweeping the streets but remember talking to you over lunch, so does that make me a real Gibbo or just someone someone wants to ignore :D:D:D

Dick Dasterdly Sep 26th 2013 10:33 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10919769)
Addressing delegates in New York, Mariano Rajoy said Gibraltar ‘affects’ Spain’s territorial integrity. He reiterated his call for the UK to enter bilateral dialogue over the Rock

All Rajoy wants is a diversion from Barcenas

As badly as Spain affects Gibraltars integrity ?

I never cease to be amazed at just how much Spanish and other S.Eu politicians can get away with.

There's just a general public acceptance that they're all as bent as a donkeys hind leg, so what's the point in losing sleep over them.

jimenato Sep 26th 2013 7:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 10919775)
I'm no longer sweeping the streets but remember talking to you over lunch, so does that make me a real Gibbo or just someone someone wants to ignore :D:D:D

Real Gibraltarians don't have accents like you mate. We must do lunch again sometime. We don't come into Gib any more, too risky - we might not get let out, so let us know when you venture our way.


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