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Old Jan 22nd 2015, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by amideislas
I was delighted to see you dump the fish story in favour of a new atrocity: "duplicitous actions", but you ultimately chose to return to the fish story.
Fark knows why, it's not working for you at all.



yeah, blah blah blah...



That's exactly what I was thinking (hoping).
The mind boggles.
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Old Jan 22nd 2015, 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
I will take that as the website VisitGib does not exist then as you cannot post a link

Another figment of your imagination.

By the way were is your response to post 2291

I would als think it is time La Mancha got a reply
You really are having a thick night tonight.you cannot find your own countries tourist site nor have you read the reply I gave to La mancha.
Such behaviour starts to explain your peculiar approach to forums and anyone who you do not agree with . Were you the kid who ran home with the ball every time someone scored a goal against them.
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Old Jan 22nd 2015, 8:26 pm
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I can't find visitgib either. There's a YouTube video, but no website.
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Old Jan 22nd 2015, 8:28 pm
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You really are having a thick night tonight.you cannot find your own countries tourist site nor have you read the reply I gave to La mancha.
Such behaviour starts to explain your peculiar approach to forums and anyone who you do not agree with . Were you the kid who ran home with the ball every time someone scored a goal against them.
Almost every country in the world loves to talk about their environmental credentials but in reality there is always someone out there to say you are doing this or that wrong. You cannot please everyone, not even if you are legally catching 10 tonnes of bluefin. The EU is the most environmentally conscious organisation in the world yet they asked for, and got, a 20% increase in the EU’s Bluefin tuna quota for three years following 2014, an increase on the 7950 tonnes they caught in 2014. Even little Malta got in on the act with a quota of 190 tonnes.

And next time you are in Portugal, have a word.

From September 2014. New push for Portugal’s Bluefin tuna future

‘Just a few weeks after Agriculture Minister Assunção Cristas sent out an appeal for more tuna farmers to set up in the Algarve, Socialist MP Miguel Freitas has added his voice to the call - saying it is vital that the Government seeks three new farming licenses “at this extraordinary moment”.

Not only that but they also want to set up tuna fattening facilities. In case you don’t know what this is, it is a ‘farm’ whereby the tuna are kept in cages and fed to fatten them up for sale. This also happens in Spain and Italy. In a cage the fish cannot exercise as they would be able to in the sea, so the more they are fed the more they fatten. Puts Gib’s 10 tonnes of sport fishing into perspective, doesn’t it.

‘Tuna fattening farms another priority
And while the Government is at it, Freitas insists the time is right to set up tuna fattening facilites, as well.
Right now, the licenses enjoyed by Portugal do not allow for lucrative fattening - which goes ahead for example in Spain.
Real Atunara’s boss Miguel Socorro explained this means Portuguese tuna farmers cannot benefit from feeding their fish. They are bound to sell them at the weight they were when they entered off-shore tuna traps. Thus, if they spend too long in them, farmers are forced to let them go - forfeiting all the expense they have gone to in keeping them.
Socorro put it more simply. In the next few weeks, 600 of the tuna in his traps will be culled for export to Japan. The deal will be worth more than €1 million - but if the fattening value could be added to the cost, profits could “rise substantially”, by as much as 50%.’’


If you care about the Bluefin tuna and cruelty to these fish you could do no worse than spend your time arguing for their protection in Portugal or any other state that treats animals in this way.

Or is it just Gib?
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Old Jan 22nd 2015, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by EMR
You really are having a thick night tonight.you cannot find your own countries tourist site nor have you read the reply I gave to La mancha.
Such behaviour starts to explain your peculiar approach to forums and anyone who you do not agree with . Were you the kid who ran home with the ball every time someone scored a goal against them.
This is getting a bit too ad homenim - steady now.
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Old Jan 22nd 2015, 10:12 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeJ
This is getting a bit too ad homenim - steady now.
Must admit, I had to look that one up, but it does seem quite appropriate.

"An argument based on the failings of an adversary rather than on the merits of the case; a logical fallacy that involves a personal attack."

Anyway I'm sure our friend will get around to posting his VisitGib link and highlighting the appropriate section all in good time.

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Old Jan 23rd 2015, 5:15 am
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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
Must admit, I had to look that one up, but it does seem quite appropriate.

"An argument based on the failings of an adversary rather than on the merits of the case; a logical fallacy that involves a personal attack."

Anyway I'm sure our friend will get around to posting his VisitGib link and highlighting the appropriate section all in good time.
It depends on how long it takes to buy the domain and build the website.

I reckon you could simply put up a page that reads "Gibraltar has tuna sport fishing and makes a lot of money from it" and leave it at that, but I don't think many here would consider that as proof.
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Old Jan 23rd 2015, 6:51 am
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Tuna Fishing is quite popular in Italy too..
Plenty of coverage of the many annual blood baths...
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Old Jan 23rd 2015, 7:46 am
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Environment Department checks fishing licences, but no prosecutions yet

by Eyleen Sheil

Environmental Protection Officers from the Department of the Environment have begun checking that anglers fishing from land and at sea hold valid licenses in compliance with a law that came into effect on January 1 this year.

Gibraltar Chronicle - The Independent Daily First Published 1801
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Old Jan 23rd 2015, 7:58 am
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WWW.visitgibraltar.GI. the OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT TOURIST SITE.

I now expect Fred to deny the existence of this site and even the government of GiB .

Thank you also for posting details of the overfishing by other neighbouring countries. I hope you are not using the " its OK for me to beat my wife because they neighbour does it as well defence as a reason for Gibraltar awarding itself a quota "

The only defence these countries have is that tuna fishing has been a tradition for thousands of years. This would be reasonable if the catch was just for local consumption as it once was .

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Originally Posted by EMR
WWW.visitgibraltar.GI. the OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT TOURIST SITE.

I now expect Fred to deny the existence of this site and even the government of GiB .
Damn, you're right! There's a plethora of boat charters... (well, 4 anyway)

Only two mention fishing, and none of them mention tuna at all, but there you go, proof positive that Gib is responsible for the (perceived) near-extinction of Tuna.

Sorry for all the ribbing, EMR, you sure showed 'em this time.

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WWW.visitgibraltar.GI. the OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT TOURIST SITE.

I now expect Fred to deny the existence of this site and even the government of GiB .
DYSLEXIA RULES KO

What happened to VisitGib
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Remember this post?

Originally Posted by Fredbargate
Mike a while back when this topic was raised I looked into it

I could only find one boat offering charters and that was on a part time basis after the owner had done his day job.
Guess which website I used as a basis of my enquiries

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
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Guess which website I used as a basis of my enquiries

So you have now found the site you said did not exist and admit that it does mention tuna fishing if we are to follow your line of reasoning which is that GiB does Not have the capabilities to catch bluefin why has it awarded itself a quota. Who is going to catch them. kids on kills. Methinks that you are not the expert on all things Gibraltarian that you would have us believe.
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erm...

naww.... forget it.

Gluten for punishment, this one. I think you've suffered enough, despite begging for more.
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