Gibraltar
#1591
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Re: Gibraltar
I understand if you detest it, but if you look at USA in the World Cup, suddenly they found there patriotism, other than a war not much brings them together - there are not many things in the world that do that.
Support the football if just to stick one up to Spain !
Support the football if just to stick one up to Spain !
Unwittingly, Andy, you may have exposed the core reason for the Gibraltar/Spain/Problem/Farce.
Gibraltar has the same population size, 30,000, as Whitstable in Kent - but there the comparison ends. Whitstable doesn't have an International airport, isn't in UEFA, and has no plans to build a UEFA compliant stadium (it would send the local rate-payers ape-faeces). For Christ's sake, they can't even get out of the Ryman league, something I suspect Gibraltar couldn't do either.
Nevertheless Whitstable Town will go into the draw for the next World Cup qualifiers alongside Germany and Argentina.
As Fred has told you, there are far more important projects higher up the priority scale for land-hungry Gibraltar (with only 6,000 square metres of land), than a massively footprinted modern, safe football stadium, which is only used for a few days of the year, and is used for the rest of the time as a concrete grass-growing bowl, soaking up Gibraltar's limited supply of water.
Gibraltar is in desperate need of land, and this is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them.
#1592
Re: Gibraltar
Unwittingly, Andy, you may have exposed the core reason for the Gibraltar/Spain/Problem/Farce.
Gibraltar has the same population size, 30,000, as Whitstable in Kent - but there the comparison ends. Whitstable doesn't have an International airport, isn't in UEFA, and has no plans to build a UEFA compliant stadium (it would send the local rate-payers ape-faeces). For Christ's sake, they can't even get out of the Ryman league, something I suspect Gibraltar couldn't do either.
Nevertheless Whitstable Town will go into the draw for the next World Cup qualifiers alongside Germany and Argentina.
As Fred has told you, there are far more important projects higher up the priority scale for land-hungry Gibraltar (with only 6,000 square metres of land), than a massively footprinted modern, safe football stadium, which is only used for a few days of the year, and is used for the rest of the time as a concrete grass-growing bowl, soaking up Gibraltar's limited supply of water.
Gibraltar is in desperate need of land, and this is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them.
Gibraltar has the same population size, 30,000, as Whitstable in Kent - but there the comparison ends. Whitstable doesn't have an International airport, isn't in UEFA, and has no plans to build a UEFA compliant stadium (it would send the local rate-payers ape-faeces). For Christ's sake, they can't even get out of the Ryman league, something I suspect Gibraltar couldn't do either.
Nevertheless Whitstable Town will go into the draw for the next World Cup qualifiers alongside Germany and Argentina.
As Fred has told you, there are far more important projects higher up the priority scale for land-hungry Gibraltar (with only 6,000 square metres of land), than a massively footprinted modern, safe football stadium, which is only used for a few days of the year, and is used for the rest of the time as a concrete grass-growing bowl, soaking up Gibraltar's limited supply of water.
Gibraltar is in desperate need of land, and this is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them.
#1593
Re: Gibraltar
Unwittingly, Andy, you may have exposed the core reason for the Gibraltar/Spain/Problem/Farce.
Gibraltar has the same population size, 30,000, as Whitstable in Kent - but there the comparison ends. Whitstable doesn't have an International airport, isn't in UEFA, and has no plans to build a UEFA compliant stadium (it would send the local rate-payers ape-faeces). For Christ's sake, they can't even get out of the Ryman league, something I suspect Gibraltar couldn't do either.
Nevertheless Whitstable Town will go into the draw for the next World Cup qualifiers alongside Germany and Argentina.
As Fred has told you, there are far more important projects higher up the priority scale for land-hungry Gibraltar (with only 6,000 square metres of land), than a massively footprinted modern, safe football stadium, which is only used for a few days of the year, and is used for the rest of the time as a concrete grass-growing bowl, soaking up Gibraltar's limited supply of water.
Gibraltar is in desperate need of land, and this is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them.
Gibraltar has the same population size, 30,000, as Whitstable in Kent - but there the comparison ends. Whitstable doesn't have an International airport, isn't in UEFA, and has no plans to build a UEFA compliant stadium (it would send the local rate-payers ape-faeces). For Christ's sake, they can't even get out of the Ryman league, something I suspect Gibraltar couldn't do either.
Nevertheless Whitstable Town will go into the draw for the next World Cup qualifiers alongside Germany and Argentina.
As Fred has told you, there are far more important projects higher up the priority scale for land-hungry Gibraltar (with only 6,000 square metres of land), than a massively footprinted modern, safe football stadium, which is only used for a few days of the year, and is used for the rest of the time as a concrete grass-growing bowl, soaking up Gibraltar's limited supply of water.
Gibraltar is in desperate need of land, and this is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them.
However your last sentence exhibits the same muddled thinking as some of your other posts on Gibraltar. It doesn't make sense.
What ...is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them?
#1594
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 400
Re: Gibraltar
I agree with you about the stadium but then I can't stand football either.
However your last sentence exhibits the same muddled thinking as some of your other posts on Gibraltar. It doesn't make sense.
What ...is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them?
However your last sentence exhibits the same muddled thinking as some of your other posts on Gibraltar. It doesn't make sense.
What ...is why the current Gibraltarian Government, instead of getting Britain to negotiate viable, environmentally-friendly, mutually agreeable and beneficial land reclamation projects with Spain, have instead chosen to unilaterally annex long disputed waters by bunging concrete blocks into them?
Gibraltar has a desperate need for space or more importantly land.
It can grow in two ways, upwards like Manhattan, Hong Kong or Benidorm, or it can grow outwards, reclaiming land from the sea.
By attempting to reclaim land from the sea, the Gibraltar Government would run into conflict with Spain which has interests in the area, and where the borders and boundaries are not clearly defined. Negotiations over reclamation would therefore have to be between Britain the sovereignty holder of Gibraltar, and Spain.
The current Government of Gibraltar have decided to avoid the difficult negotiation route in favour of annexing disputed waters - gambling that the UK Government would back anything the Gibraltar Government did to the hilt.
This, the UK Government has refused to do.
#1598
Re: Gibraltar
The estimated time for cars to cross into Spain at midnight last night was 2 hours
#1599
Re: Gibraltar
CM meets all Spanish political forces except PP & UPD
The Chief Minister returned to Gibraltar yesterday after a successful visit to Seville and Madrid.
During the visit Mr Picardo met with almost all political forces in Spain and, in particular, held a lengthy meeting and dinner with senior members of the leadership of the PSOE to further the already established links between that party and the GSLP which Mr Picardo leads.
The Chief Minister's visit to Spain was followed by the national press in that country, in particular the right wing newspaper ABC which disclosed many of the meetings (which HMGOG did not do until the end of the visit) in an attempt, apparently co-ordinated with the ruling Partido Popular, to pressure parties not to see Mr Picardo. In the end, the tactic did not work and Mr Picardo was able to hold lengthy and detailed meetings with all Spanish political parties with parliamentary representation in Madrid except for the PP and minority opposition party Union, Progresso y Democracia, ("UPyD").
During his visit, Mr Picardo also accepted an invitation to appear on "Espejo Publico" a daily current affairs programme on Antena 3.
http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12104&offset=0
The Chief Minister returned to Gibraltar yesterday after a successful visit to Seville and Madrid.
During the visit Mr Picardo met with almost all political forces in Spain and, in particular, held a lengthy meeting and dinner with senior members of the leadership of the PSOE to further the already established links between that party and the GSLP which Mr Picardo leads.
The Chief Minister's visit to Spain was followed by the national press in that country, in particular the right wing newspaper ABC which disclosed many of the meetings (which HMGOG did not do until the end of the visit) in an attempt, apparently co-ordinated with the ruling Partido Popular, to pressure parties not to see Mr Picardo. In the end, the tactic did not work and Mr Picardo was able to hold lengthy and detailed meetings with all Spanish political parties with parliamentary representation in Madrid except for the PP and minority opposition party Union, Progresso y Democracia, ("UPyD").
During his visit, Mr Picardo also accepted an invitation to appear on "Espejo Publico" a daily current affairs programme on Antena 3.
http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12104&offset=0
#1600
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 400
Re: Gibraltar
Strangely true.
In April and May when the fogs from the Mediterranean roll into the hills behind the Costa Brava, and the grey skies come down to meet it, it coincides with the cuckoo mating season round here.
Some days, from dawn to dusk, its like living in a socked-in Swiss clock factory.
In April and May when the fogs from the Mediterranean roll into the hills behind the Costa Brava, and the grey skies come down to meet it, it coincides with the cuckoo mating season round here.
Some days, from dawn to dusk, its like living in a socked-in Swiss clock factory.
#1601
Re: Gibraltar
Russian billionaire 'party animal' snaps up Britain's most expensive house for £120m:
documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday confirm Goncharenko’s interests. MCA Shipping (Gib) is listed as the owner of 102 Eaton Square on the Land Registry.
MCA Shipping, which is based in Gibraltar, shows Andrey Goncharenko as shareholder. Directors include Redmount Management Services with the company secretary listed as Redmount Corporate Services.
Read more: Russian billionaire Andrey Goncharenko snaps up Britain's most expensive house | Mail Online
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documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday confirm Goncharenko’s interests. MCA Shipping (Gib) is listed as the owner of 102 Eaton Square on the Land Registry.
MCA Shipping, which is based in Gibraltar, shows Andrey Goncharenko as shareholder. Directors include Redmount Management Services with the company secretary listed as Redmount Corporate Services.
Read more: Russian billionaire Andrey Goncharenko snaps up Britain's most expensive house | Mail Online
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#1602
Re: Gibraltar
Spain Taken to EU Court For Non-Compliant of 28 Different Landfills!
Do as I say, not as I do, really is appropriate for this next report regarding our pathetic neighbours.
After years of moans and groans from the Spanish Government and tin-pot spanish environmental groups like ‘Verdemar’ regarding complaints to the EU about Gibraltar Eastside development project and more recently about the works being conducted at Sandy Bay, complaints that have largely fallen by the EU way-side.
Complaints and accusations that Gibraltar was continuing to expand its territory through landfills in a marine conservation area and “breaching natural habitats, fauna and flora” on the eastern of the Rock etc… Well now comes the good news that the European Union is now is taking Spain to EU Courts for breaches of environment legislation REGARDING…YOU GUESSED…LANDFILLS!
Under the Directive, operations at landfill sites that were in operation in Spain in 2001 should have ceased
by16 July 2009 unless they complied with EU standards designed to ensure that they operate safely.
According to the latest information available to the Commission, almost five years after the final deadline for closure, 28 non-compliant landfill sites in Spain have still not been closed, and 3 others still need to be brought up to the standards required. I wonder what the big mouths at Verdemar have to say now?
Some say Spain could even be declared as the “dustbin of Europe” after warnings that it will run out of landfill sites if it continues ignoring EU law.
Spain buries more than 19 million tonnes of household rubbish in the ground, Spain Under the EU landfill directive has made a mockery of an important EU directive it continuously levels at Gibraltar.
http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12118&offset=0
Commission takes Spain to Court over non-compliant landfills and high-speed rail link
EUROPA - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Environment: Commission takes Spain to Court over non-compliant landfills and high-speed rail link
Do as I say, not as I do, really is appropriate for this next report regarding our pathetic neighbours.
After years of moans and groans from the Spanish Government and tin-pot spanish environmental groups like ‘Verdemar’ regarding complaints to the EU about Gibraltar Eastside development project and more recently about the works being conducted at Sandy Bay, complaints that have largely fallen by the EU way-side.
Complaints and accusations that Gibraltar was continuing to expand its territory through landfills in a marine conservation area and “breaching natural habitats, fauna and flora” on the eastern of the Rock etc… Well now comes the good news that the European Union is now is taking Spain to EU Courts for breaches of environment legislation REGARDING…YOU GUESSED…LANDFILLS!
Under the Directive, operations at landfill sites that were in operation in Spain in 2001 should have ceased
by16 July 2009 unless they complied with EU standards designed to ensure that they operate safely.
According to the latest information available to the Commission, almost five years after the final deadline for closure, 28 non-compliant landfill sites in Spain have still not been closed, and 3 others still need to be brought up to the standards required. I wonder what the big mouths at Verdemar have to say now?
Some say Spain could even be declared as the “dustbin of Europe” after warnings that it will run out of landfill sites if it continues ignoring EU law.
Spain buries more than 19 million tonnes of household rubbish in the ground, Spain Under the EU landfill directive has made a mockery of an important EU directive it continuously levels at Gibraltar.
http://www.panorama.gi/localnews/hea...12118&offset=0
Commission takes Spain to Court over non-compliant landfills and high-speed rail link
EUROPA - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - Environment: Commission takes Spain to Court over non-compliant landfills and high-speed rail link
#1603
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Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 400
Re: Gibraltar
Russian billionaire 'party animal' snaps up Britain's most expensive house for £120m:
documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday confirm Goncharenko’s interests. MCA Shipping (Gib) is listed as the owner of 102 Eaton Square on the Land Registry.
MCA Shipping, which is based in Gibraltar, shows Andrey Goncharenko as shareholder. Directors include Redmount Management Services with the company secretary listed as Redmount Corporate Services.
Read more: Russian billionaire Andrey Goncharenko snaps up Britain's most expensive house | Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday confirm Goncharenko’s interests. MCA Shipping (Gib) is listed as the owner of 102 Eaton Square on the Land Registry.
MCA Shipping, which is based in Gibraltar, shows Andrey Goncharenko as shareholder. Directors include Redmount Management Services with the company secretary listed as Redmount Corporate Services.
Read more: Russian billionaire Andrey Goncharenko snaps up Britain's most expensive house | Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
I'm confused.
You seem to have gone out of your way to point out an obscure link between "the secret world of Russian oligarchs" and Gibraltar.
Have you decided to join me on my quest for truth on the Rock ?
#1604
Re: Gibraltar
Government Welcomes European Commission Report On Online Gambling
Wednesday, 16 July 2014 09:44
The Government has said that it welcomes the Recommendation of the European Commission on Common Principles for the protection of consumers using online gambling services and the prevention of underage gambling. Responsible cooperation and regulation is essential, it says, in ensuring real consumer protection across borders.
Speaking yesterday, Gibraltar's Minister for Gaming, Albert Isola, said:
“These principles reflect the existing regulations in Gibraltar for ensuring online gaming services are safe and reliable. For nearly two decades Gibraltar has helped set the standards for online gaming and we will continue to do so. It is pleasing to see amongst the Recommendations so much of what we already do, and that Gibraltar’s own proposal for national self-exclusion registers has been adopted by the Commission.”
It is important to note, says the Government, that Gibraltar only licenses some 30 operators, all with long and established backgrounds and reputations in the remote gambling industry. These companies operate lawfully in the US, Australia and across Europe, reflecting their quality and commitment to maintaining best standards.
Jul 16 - Government Welcomes European Commission Report On Online Gambling
Wednesday, 16 July 2014 09:44
The Government has said that it welcomes the Recommendation of the European Commission on Common Principles for the protection of consumers using online gambling services and the prevention of underage gambling. Responsible cooperation and regulation is essential, it says, in ensuring real consumer protection across borders.
Speaking yesterday, Gibraltar's Minister for Gaming, Albert Isola, said:
“These principles reflect the existing regulations in Gibraltar for ensuring online gaming services are safe and reliable. For nearly two decades Gibraltar has helped set the standards for online gaming and we will continue to do so. It is pleasing to see amongst the Recommendations so much of what we already do, and that Gibraltar’s own proposal for national self-exclusion registers has been adopted by the Commission.”
It is important to note, says the Government, that Gibraltar only licenses some 30 operators, all with long and established backgrounds and reputations in the remote gambling industry. These companies operate lawfully in the US, Australia and across Europe, reflecting their quality and commitment to maintaining best standards.
Jul 16 - Government Welcomes European Commission Report On Online Gambling
#1605
Re: Gibraltar
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