Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 12985062)
I see Priti Patel wants to send asylum seekers to Gibraltar for processing.
Who should have dealt with the problem and not just passed it on. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12985119)
Why not send them back to their last country of departure?
Who should have dealt with the problem and not just passed it on. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12985119)
Why not send them back to their last country of departure?
Who should have dealt with the problem and not just passed it on. Another Brexit success. Funny how their first response is to fly kites in the press about outsourcing the problem to a crown dependency or an overseas territory, all of which either didn't get a vote in leaving the EU or had their referendum vote ignored. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by DLC
(Post 12985149)
The UK opted out of the Dublin convention (EU directive 604/2013) as part of leaving the EU.
Another Brexit success. Funny how their first response is to fly kites in the press about outsourcing the problem to a crown dependency or an overseas territory, all of which either didn't get a vote in leaving the EU or had their referendum vote ignored. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12985234)
Gibraltar had a vote
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by EsuriJohn
(Post 12985343)
which was 98% in favour of staying in the EU.
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12985365)
Commonly touted as 96% but actually nearer 60%
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 12985062)
I see Priti Patel wants to send asylum seekers to Gibraltar for processing.
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Gibraltar could yet face no-deal Brexit, chief minister warns
Fabian Picardo says treaty allowing Gibraltar to join Schengen ‘should not be given for granted.’ Fabian Picardo issued the warning during a House of Lords EU committee hearing Tuesday, where he cautioned that the agreement could fall apart in coming months. The deal allows for Gibraltar, which was ceded to Britain in 1713 during the War of Spanish Succession, to join Schengen under the auspices of Spain. That means Gibraltar’s international border will move to its airport and seaport, paving the way for the demolition of the 1.2-kilometer physical barrier that separates the territory from Spain. Management of that crossing has long poisoned relations with Madrid. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by DLC
(Post 12985383)
Quote: Fabian Picardo says treaty allowing Gibraltar to join Schengen ‘should not be given for granted.’ Fabian Picardo issued the warning during a House of Lords EU committee hearing Tuesday, where he cautioned that the agreement could fall apart in coming months. The deal allows for Gibraltar, which was ceded to Britain in 1713 during the War of Spanish Succession, to join Schengen under the auspices of Spain. That means Gibraltar’s international border will move to its airport and seaport, paving the way for the demolition of the 1.2-kilometer physical barrier that separates the territory from Spain. Management of that crossing has long poisoned relations with Madrid. The problem with this is that Gibraltar would still not be a full independent member of Schengen but have full uninterrupted access to Spain and therefore all the Schengen area. So anyone entering Gib via the port or airport would also have the same access to the Schengen area. Not actually being in Schengen would disqualify Gib personnel from manning the immigration in these two areas on behalf of Schengen It has been suggested that a company called Frontex could be employed by Schengen to undertake these duties. However Frontex employs people from the local area ( in this case not Gib ) which means you could have Spaniards employed on Gibraltar soil to control immigration into Gib. This is a BIG NO NO to both the Gibraltar government and the people of Gibraltar backed up by 300+ years of experience. Hence impasse |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12985234)
Gibraltar had a vote
Originally Posted by DLC
(Post 12985149)
The UK opted out of the Dublin convention (EU directive 604/2013) as part of leaving the EU.
Another Brexit success. Funny how their first response is to fly kites in the press about outsourcing the problem to a crown dependency or an overseas territory, all of which either didn't get a vote in leaving the EU or had their referendum vote ignored.
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12985695)
It has been suggested that a company called Frontex could be employed by Schengen to undertake these duties.
You're either being disingenuous in referring to it as a company, and inferring that it's a private organisation, or you are misinformed. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 12985697)
See Fred, the post you responded to covered that.
By 'company', I presume you mean Frontex, the EU's European Border and Coast Guard Agency. You're either being disingenuous in referring to it as a company, and inferring that it's a private organisation, or you are misinformed. |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 12985746)
An Agency is a particular kind of company, which serves as an intermediary between clients
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e0e526b3be.png https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...a2af617262.png Who does the audience agree with? |
Re: Gibraltar 2
OK folks that is enough arguing about the meaning of the words used. Please return to the what was being discussed before you started with this diversion.
Rosemary |
Re: Gibraltar 2
Originally Posted by Rosemary
(Post 12985828)
OK folks that is enough arguing about the meaning of the words used. Please return to the what was being discussed before you started with this diversion.
Rosemary But okay, if you're happy for him to lie, I'll go along with it. |
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