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Old Aug 22nd 2023, 10:10 am
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That's a huge number in proportion to the population, especially when you add the other 7000 ish daily commuters from the other side of the wall. Sounds like they need to start a social housing plan and allow these workers to take up residence.

Alternatively, they could offer packages to the 50%+ of non-working residents to take up a place in the sun on the other side of the frontier. That would help with the population density and mean less reliance on foreign labour.
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It looks like the Gibraltarian Government has finally got some backbone.
They are threatening to take reciprocal action at the frontier after the Spanish yet again caused lengthy queues for people crossing from Spain yesterday.

Add to that this week Spain also again refused to accept Gibraltar has Territorial waters.

It looks like we could be appriaching a Winter of Discontent.
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
It looks like the Gibraltarian Government has finally got some backbone.
They are threatening to take reciprocal action at the frontier after the Spanish yet again caused lengthy queues for people crossing from Spain
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https://www.chronicle.gi/border-chaos-as-both-gibraltar-and-spain-tighten-immigration-checks/

Well this morning Gibraltar took reciprocal action leading to CHAOS on the roads in nearby Spain 🤣👍

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Today September 10th is Gibraltar's National Day

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar_National_Day
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Paul Bristow (Conservative, Peterborough) was clearly moved by his National Day visit to Gibraltar. He spoke in the House of Commons on Tuesday: "On Sunday 10th September, just over a week ago, I attended the celebration of Gibraltar National Day just below the great Rock of Gibraltar with many other Members from this House. The first national day was held in 1992 to mark the 25th anniversary of the 1967 sovereignty referendum. It is now a wonderful annual celebration of the national pride of Gibraltarians. Gibraltar is one of our overseas territories and was ceded to Great Britain under the treaty of Utrecht in 1713. The Spanish maintain a claim to Gibraltar. Following talks between our two countries, the people of Gibraltar themselves were asked to determine their future in a referendum in 1967. Some 99% voted to remain British, compared with only 44 votes for Spanish sovereignty. That is an incredibly special thing. Armed only with ballots and pencils, the people of Gibraltar stood up to General Franco’s Spain and asserted their right to self-determination. I was honoured to join the people of Gibraltar and be part of the celebrations."
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"The people of Gibraltar themselves were asked to determine their future in a referendum in 1967. Some 99% voted to remain British, compared with only 44 votes for Spanish sovereignty. That is an incredibly special thing. Armed only with ballots and pencils, the people of Gibraltar stood up to General Franco’s Spain and asserted their right to self-determination. I was honoured to join the people of Gibraltar and be part of the celebrations."

He might have continued:

"Then in 2016 they were asked to determine their future in another referendum. 95.91% voted to remain in the EU compared with only 823 votes for leaving the EU on a turnout of 83.64%. That is also an incredibly special thing. Armed only with ballots and pencils once again, the people of Gibraltar asserted their right to continue to be part of the EU along with Scotland and Northern Ireland. And were ignored by my government which chose the hardest form of Brexit."
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He might have continued:

"Then in 2016 they were asked to determine their future in another referendum. 95.91% voted to remain in the EU compared with only 823 votes for leaving the EU on a turnout of 83.64%. That is also an incredibly special thing. Armed only with ballots and pencils once again, the people of Gibraltar asserted their right to continue to be part of the EU along with Scotland and Northern Ireland. And were ignored by my government which chose the hardest form of Brexit."
You could also add:-
Gibraltar is still waiting for there to be a stable Spanish goverment so that negotiations with reference to their Schengen membership can be finalised

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Old Sep 22nd 2023, 8:28 am
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As far as I know there is a stable government, the timetable after elections is as set out in the constitution.
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Originally Posted by DLC
As far as I know there is a stable government, the timetable after elections is as set out in the constitution.
Well thats not the way it's seen in Gib.

Quote:- an inconclusive General Election and a caretaker government

https://www.chronicle.gi/sanchez-rea...-speech-to-un/
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You seem to have forgotten things are also waiting for Gibraltar's own general elections which is mentioned in the article you link to. So Spain's new government could have been formed only to have to wait for Gibraltar.
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Originally Posted by DLC
You seem to have forgotten things are also waiting for Gibraltar's own general elections which is mentioned in the article you link to. So Spain's new government could have been formed only to have to wait for Gibraltar.
I doubt Spain will get it's act together in 3 weeks whilst Gibraltar will.
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47 years ago today Fred first stepped ashore in Gibraltar
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Originally Posted by DLC
As far as I know there is a stable government, the timetable after elections is as set out in the constitution.
The leader of the Partido Popular has failed to secure enough votes to become the next Spanish Premier, reflecting the results of July's general election.
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
The leader of the Partido Popular has failed to secure enough votes to become the next Spanish Premier, reflecting the results of July's general election.
The PP has failed but, as the PNV put it, "Para sumar nuestros votos tienen que restar 33 de Vox" which is the sign of a democracy which refuses to lurch to the far right which can be only a good thing.

So onwards on to the next step in the timetable...
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Originally Posted by DLC
As far as I know there is a stable government, the timetable after elections is as set out in the constitution.
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In what was his second attempt at the Investiture – with Feijoo getting 172 votes in his favour and 177 against. Two days earlier he achieved similar numbers.

The outcome means Spain is still without a government.
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