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rugbymatt Nov 21st 2010 8:57 am

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Oh good... a nice debate about ethics.

bil Nov 21st 2010 10:16 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8995508)
Oh good... a nice debate about ethics.

Can't compare to sussex.

Dick Dasterdly Nov 21st 2010 10:20 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8995609)
Can't compare to sussex.

True, from what I heard the women are all fur coat and no knickers in ethics. :rofl:

ukecadet Nov 21st 2010 11:00 am

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Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgXoJO0OcRo.
Not sure how to do links :fingerscrossed
First thing that pops up is Heather Mills but hang in there.
Not for the squeamish.
Try to watch it to the end.
It's just disgusting what some people will do for cash.

bil Nov 21st 2010 11:17 am

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Originally Posted by ukecadet (Post 8995657)
Take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgXoJO0OcRo.
Not sure how to do links :fingerscrossed
First thing that pops up is Heather Mills but hang in there.
Not for the squeamish.
Try to watch it to the end.
It's just disgusting what some people will do for cash.


Far more fun to work out what you wouldn't do for say, 50 million quid.

Dick Dasterdly Nov 21st 2010 12:20 pm

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Well it's been fairly obvious for long enough that the Chinese are not strong on ethics, but what amazes me is the lack of ethics shown by the govts.of the Western world, in not only accepting such practises for all these years, but also allowing their industrial bases to be almost wiped out in many cases, by purchasing goods produced by virtual slave labour, such as political prisoners forced to work in diabolical conditions, just for their daily bowl of rice, and furthermore now finding themselves so deep in hock to the evil barstewards that they now have to virtually lick their asses. :frown:

angiescarr Nov 21st 2010 5:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8995769)
Well it's been fairly obvious for long enough that the Chinese are not strong on ethics, but what amazes me is the lack of ethics shown by the govts.of the Western world, in not only accepting such practises for all these years, but also allowing their industrial bases to be almost wiped out in many cases, by purchasing goods produced by virtual slave labour, such as political prisoners forced to work in diabolical conditions, just for their daily bowl of rice, and furthermore now finding themselves so deep in hock to the evil barstewards that they now have to virtually lick their asses. :frown:

OOh don't get me started!

cricketman Nov 21st 2010 7:51 pm

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Ethics go out the window for most people as soon as you have to "pay for them"

How many people will pay double for eggs from free range hens?

Or only buy European made clothes when they complain about Far Eastern sweatshops? When these clothes may cost 5-10 times as much?

And what about children's toys? I went to buy a present for a young relative at the weekend, the amount of cr*p that passes as toys these days is unbelievable. Full of cheap plastic, colourful packagaging and made by Chinamen for less than a dollar a day, never mind the scary images the toys are giving to the next generation. A lot of the figures for little girls looked like street prostitutes. Made me want to buy an old fashioned artesan wooden toy or maybe a football. Although even footballs are made through child labour apparently.

It's a nasty old world. Some relatives of mine have "opted out" of mass consumerism. No TV, no visits to toyshops for their children and no visits to supermarkets. I admire them and their life is great, but it is hard work!

Dick Dasterdly Nov 21st 2010 10:01 pm

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Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 8996367)
Ethics go out the window for most people as soon as you have to "pay for them"

How many people will pay double for eggs from free range hens?

Or only buy European made clothes when they complain about Far Eastern sweatshops? When these clothes may cost 5-10 times as much?

And what about children's toys? I went to buy a present for a young relative at the weekend, the amount of cr*p that passes as toys these days is unbelievable. Full of cheap plastic, colourful packagaging and made by Chinamen for less than a dollar a day, never mind the scary images the toys are giving to the next generation. A lot of the figures for little girls looked like street prostitutes. Made me want to buy an old fashioned artesan wooden toy or maybe a football. Although even footballs are made through child labour apparently.

It's a nasty old world. Some relatives of mine have "opted out" of mass consumerism. No TV, no visits to toyshops for their children and no visits to supermarkets. I admire them and their life is great, but it is hard work!

I fully agree with all you say.
It's obvious that everyone is looking for a bargain and shoppers will tend to go for the cheapest goods, if they meet their requirements and turn a blind eye to their origin.
However as I said, it's govts that should take, or should already have taken, action to block or restrict trade with countries such as China, using slave labour and turning a blind eye to human and animal rights.
It's likely too late in the day now, and as the cunning Chinese continue to take over the World almost by stealth, they are well on the way to becoming not only a superpower, but possibly in the not too distant future the ONLY superpower, and where that will leave the common ppl of the Western world is anyones guess,... working in sweatshops and political prisoner factories maybe.
Some say that India is the country to watch out for, but I don't see it.
My money is on the ruthless and cunning Chinese to eventually control the whole World order, by whatever means they choose

Fredbargate Nov 21st 2010 10:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8996551)
I
My money is on the ruthless and cunning Chinese to eventually control the whole World order, by whatever means they choose

Makes me gald I was born when I was ( baby boomer )

Dick Dasterdly Nov 21st 2010 11:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8996607)
Makes me gald I was born when I was ( baby boomer )

Exactly,
It's all about getting your timing right, and being in the right place at the right time, ie, the Western World during it's best and most lucrative days.
In other words just hitting the narrow window of opportunity in between the tough old times and the worst of what I fear is yet to come. :thumbsup:

Fredbargate Nov 21st 2010 11:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8996636)
Exactly,
It's all about getting your timing right,

I'm not sure the timing was anything to do with me.

At a guess I'm the result of my father coming home drunk, possibly my mother as well :thumbsup:

Dick Dasterdly Nov 21st 2010 11:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8996652)
I'm not sure the timing was anything to do with me.

At a guess I'm the result of my father coming home drunk, possibly my mother as well :thumbsup:


Well I doubt if very many of us arrived right on schedule as a result of careful planning.

TGA Nov 22nd 2010 6:12 am

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I have a beaver skin hat, i also like eating beaver. Smells like fish tastes like chicken.
I also love chcken tarka ...
Its a bit like chicken tikka but a little 'otter. I couldn't wear an otter hat :( to cute whereas beaver............

bil Nov 23rd 2010 3:07 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8996607)
Makes me gald I was born when I was ( baby boomer )

Not quite, best of all was to be born just after the boomers. That way they clear the way and we have it easy.

Cricket man has it spot on when he mentions price outweighing ethics for most people most of the time.


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