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irishrose2 Apr 11th 2016 2:40 pm

Finders fee...
 
Hi everyone
Have any of you heard of a Finders Fee?
If so,is it usually half a months rent?
Also,can anyone give me a rough estimate
as to living fees for one person,renting an apartment
for 400 euro's per month would be?
Food,Electricity etc?
just a rough guide...

snikpoh Apr 11th 2016 3:41 pm

Re: Finders fee...
 

Originally Posted by irishrose2 (Post 11919889)
Hi everyone
Have any of you heard of a Finders Fee?
If so,is it usually half a months rent?
Also,can anyone give me a rough estimate
as to living fees for one person,renting an apartment
for 400 euro's per month would be?
Food,Electricity etc?
just a rough guide...

Yes. A finders fee (for the agent) is extremely common (and acceptable IMHO).

It is usually paid by both the tenant AND the landlord although some will tell you that it should only be paid by the landlord (I don't agree).

It is usually 1 months rent EACH.


Excluding rent, 400€ may be enough for utilities and food but it may be tight. That figure won't include transport costs though.

Neptuno Apr 11th 2016 5:56 pm

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 11919946)
Yes. A finders fee (for the agent) is extremely common (and acceptable IMHO).

It is usually paid by both the tenant AND the landlord although some will tell you that it should only be paid by the landlord (I don't agree).

It is usually 1 months rent EACH.


Excluding rent, 400€ may be enough for utilities and food but it may be tight. That figure won't include transport costs though.

I
It's a fairly recent money grabbing invention.
Some estate agents in UK have latched onto this, so I made sure I avoided those .

snikpoh Apr 12th 2016 6:13 am

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Originally Posted by Neptuno (Post 11920083)
I
It's a fairly recent money grabbing invention.
Some estate agents in UK have latched onto this, so I made sure I avoided those .

I disagree, it's been charged in Spain for over 10 years.

I also don't think it's a "money grabbing invention" - how else do the agents get paid. Remember, they don't manage the property in most cases, they just put the landlord and tenant in contact and draw up the necessary contracts.

BEVS Apr 12th 2016 6:42 am

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Hi there IrishRose2

I'm so please you have found your Spanish feet.:thumbup:

Time to tango then.

This lot are really a lovely helpful and knowledgeable bunch.

Leper Apr 13th 2016 5:57 am

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Finder's Fee:- Anybody who pays a Finder's Fee is short of the mark (my opinion). This fee is just another way of the real estate agent's ploy on the gullible rental property seeker. The owner of the property pays a fee also.

There is no justification for a Finder's Fee and if you are stupid enough to pay you deserve to be ripped off. And just for the record a estate agents charge other fees too in the line of deposits. I am not talking the justifiable deposit against damage etc. But, if an estate agent can talk up some innocent-in-waiting deposits will be pushed up.

For anybody looking to rent property in Spain and especially on the coast:- Every resort has thousands of empty properties most of which the owner cannot get somebody to rent especially in the off season. You will not see more "Se Alquiler (For Rent)" signs per square 100 metres anywhere else. Just call to any urbanisation and make a simple enquiry and you should have an apartment available to you within hours, I kid you not.

Maur-Ross Jun 1st 2016 12:11 am

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What they do to desperate students trying to get fixed up before term starts is take the fee of loads of them, unbeknown to the others. Then go for the biggest bidder. The rest have to fight like mad to get it back. Daylight robbery

snikpoh Jun 1st 2016 6:03 am

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Originally Posted by Maur-Ross (Post 11961248)
What they do to desperate students trying to get fixed up before term starts is take the fee of loads of them, unbeknown to the others. Then go for the biggest bidder. The rest have to fight like mad to get it back. Daylight robbery

More fool them (IMHO).

The finders fee should ONLY be paid once the contract is signed.

Maur-Ross Jun 1st 2016 8:39 pm

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That's not how it works here. Obviously students are wiser from then on. So usually its the first year flat-sharing ones who get caught.

snikpoh Jun 2nd 2016 4:48 am

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Originally Posted by Maur-Ross (Post 11962243)
That's not how it works here. Obviously students are wiser from then on. So usually its the first year flat-sharing ones who get caught.

It's certainly how it works here (Communidad Valencia ) - where are you?

Maur-Ross Jun 2nd 2016 12:28 pm

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Scotland

amideislas Jun 2nd 2016 12:35 pm

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Erm, if you don't like "finders fees" then do your own "finding". You can, you know. Nothing at all stopping you. It's just work, that's all.

Having said that, it's absolutely the norm in Germany, and they have legal right to "exclusivity", meaning, that even if someone else finds you your dream place, whomever you have a contract with is entitled to a commission, even if they never lifted a finger.

So, be happy you have a choice in Spain. Good hunting!

Horlics Jun 3rd 2016 7:20 am

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A finders fee is normal in the UK. Most BTL landlords pay one every time they change tenants.

They have the option of finding a new tenant without the help of an agent, in which case there is no fee to pay (except to the credit checking agencies when they do that bit themselves).

teejaydee Jun 3rd 2016 7:34 am

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Originally Posted by Horlics (Post 11963655)
A finders fee is normal in the UK. Most BTL landlords pay one every time they change tenants.

What you are describing is the commission payable by the landlord to the agent. The OP is talking about a finders fee payable by the tenant.

I would be happy to pay a finders fee if it was to a "buyer's agent", who I had employed to do the leg-work for me by searching for a suitable property. But I would not be happy to pay it if I responded to an advertisement that an estate agent had placed. This is just a way for the agent to double his/her commission, by charging both the landlord and the tenant.

Horlics Jun 3rd 2016 8:12 am

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Originally Posted by teejaydee (Post 11963668)
What you are describing is the commission payable by the landlord to the agent. The OP is talking about a finders fee payable by the tenant.

I would be happy to pay a finders fee if it was to a "buyer's agent", who I had employed to do the leg-work for me by searching for a suitable property. But I would not be happy to pay it if I responded to an advertisement that an estate agent had placed. This is just a way for the agent to double his/her commission, by charging both the landlord and the tenant.

Correct. I misunderstood.


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