Final call? Spain: register your residency
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Re: Final call? Spain: register your residency
Thanks only thing is the green card we were issued up to 6 July the first one they issued doesn't have an expiry date on it only the date of issue. After 5 years that could be exchanged for one that has permanent printed on it. I have the initial green card been resident 2 years once I get to 5 years residence I will exchange it for a permanent TIE. The Spanish government have said that will be a simple exchange procedure with no need to prove income healthcare etc as you have already done that to obtain green card.
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It's not what I've been told it's what the Spanish government Web site says. I have residency all I will be doing is exchanging from green card to permanent TIE.
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Well if they say that, just tell them to get stuffed and either continue to use your green form or try again in 6 months.
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This official link explains exactly what one needs to do now and in the future specifically mentions changing the green registration certificate in the future after transition ends. It couldn't really be any clearer. Fact is if people wish to change to TIE card from green card they can if they don't want to they don't have to. Should there be changes to this I'm sure we will be updated to ensure we can and do comply. There is no point in second guessing or speculating in the future or justifying changing or not it's simply a personal choice currently.
https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/…/Doc…/...EXIT%20eng.pdf
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In this week's edition of EWN I am surprised to see an answer in "Legally Speaking" by David Searl which is contrary to any number of posts on various forums, and on advice given by various officials regarding the need (or not) to changing to a TIE. Searl claims that it will be necessary to change to the new TIE before the end of 2020, else non-performers of the change would be considered non resident.
Whilst EWN is not noted as a regular purveyor of totally accurate facts or news items, it seems very strange that such a noted columnist as DS should be unaware of the wealth of opinion contrary to his.
Can we have a definitive answer to this from others of professional calibre.
Whilst EWN is not noted as a regular purveyor of totally accurate facts or news items, it seems very strange that such a noted columnist as DS should be unaware of the wealth of opinion contrary to his.
Can we have a definitive answer to this from others of professional calibre.
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Is there a link to this information you refer to? I have found similar on that site but there is no link or evidence to what they say? If it becomes compulsory then I'm sure the Spanish Government will give notice. What would they gain by simply making legally resident people illegal? One error I did find in the piece I read was re people in the Nerja and general area being unable to get appointments at Torre Del Mar Police Station and fact that they can't simply apply elsewhere. I know for a fact that's rubbish as we are in Torre Del Mar área and took an appointment for my wife in Málaga, without any issues whatsoever. If you book on the cita previa site it gives options for appointments you can make. This strikes me of scare mongering the Spanish Government site actually outlines that the exchange can be done in the future.
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From official spanish government site. Specifically mentions in paragraph 6 that it is not mandatory to exchange from Registration Certificate (green card) to TIE. Paragraph 7 goes on to explain that having Registration Certificate (green card) or TIE will prove legal residence in Spain now and in the future and that it entitles them to benefit from the withdrawal agreement. Pretty clear to me. It's simply a matter of personal choice
https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en...residence.aspx
https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en...residence.aspx
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Complete nonsense from EWN - I refer all to the following
'It is not mandatory to apply for the new residence document, but it is important to remember that you must have a registration certificate (or family card of a Union citizen, in the case of family members) that documents your situation.'
https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en...residence.aspx
'If you registered as a resident before 6 July 2020, you will have a green A4 certificate or credit card-sized piece of paper from Extranjeria or the police. This is still a valid document and will prove your rights under the Withdrawal Agreement, including after the transition period ends.'
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-i...-and-residency
'It is not mandatory to apply for the new residence document, but it is important to remember that you must have a registration certificate (or family card of a Union citizen, in the case of family members) that documents your situation.'
https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en...residence.aspx
'If you registered as a resident before 6 July 2020, you will have a green A4 certificate or credit card-sized piece of paper from Extranjeria or the police. This is still a valid document and will prove your rights under the Withdrawal Agreement, including after the transition period ends.'
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-i...-and-residency
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Re: Final call? Spain: register your residency
bobd22 As fred says, funcionarios are are law unto their own. They ignore whats written and make the rules up as they go along.
One of my collegues is in Malaga today to get a replacement TIE because he lost his wallet & residence card. Lets see what he is asked for.
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bobd22 As fred says, funcionarios are are law unto their own. They ignore whats written and make the rules up as they go along.
One of my collegues is in Malaga today to get a replacement TIE because he lost his wallet & residence card. Lets see what he is asked for.
One of my collegues is in Malaga today to get a replacement TIE because he lost his wallet & residence card. Lets see what he is asked for.
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A full quote would have made clear that I did not support the Searl view
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It may be of interest to some that I applied online through a gestor at Malaga Extranjeria 4 weeks ago for TIE (first-time applicant, no green certificate) and my application hasn't yet been approved. With less than 12 weeks to the end of the transition period, it's getting incredibly tight for those yet to apply, esp if you need to exchange your driving licence, which must be initiated before the year's end and trafico requires TIE or green certificate.
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It may be of interest to some that I applied online through a gestor at Malaga Extranjeria 4 weeks ago for TIE (first-time applicant, no green certificate) and my application hasn't yet been approved. With less than 12 weeks to the end of the transition period, it's getting incredibly tight for those yet to apply, esp if you need to exchange your driving licence, which must be initiated before the year's end and trafico requires TIE or green certificate.