newpower

Come on , the majority voted to leave and was happy to suffer, and the press are saying those that voted remain now agree with a hard brexit.
Couldnt make it up if you tried.

Novocastrian

Well somebody made that up. Was it you?

InVinoVeritas

Nah, it was the LSE and Oxford University:-

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/r...eLL#.siYw1EgMM

Novocastrian

I await peer review on that. How many of the 3000-odd respondents chose mutually incompatible options?

rspltd

I'm afraid I would give little credence to a 'survey' of 3000 People supposedly from all over the UK who were recruited on the Internet. I am amazed that people still give pollsters more than a passing glance - a crystal ball would be as accurate.

InVinoVeritas

Shooting the messenger is another option

Novocastrian

So is withdrawing Article 50.

InVinoVeritas

Except even more people in the UK seem to support leaving than did so before. Shame we have such a rag-bag government to deal with this decision though.

bobd22

There is only one true way of knowing that which will not happen a better put together referendum not just in or out. That way those that didn't bother to vote in the last fiasco would maybe vote. Only possibility of any second vote will be the lib dem idea of final vote at end of negotiations when people would know the real cost / benefits, I personally don't see that happening.

Annetje

And maybe allow expats a vote as well ?

Fredbargate

Expats living in Spain and commuting to UK or Gib for work?

Expats living in Spain and working in any other non sterling country?

Plus admittedly a smaller number who are living and working in Spain but still have obligations in the UK or Gib?

bobd22

Interestingly today I read David Milliband has said that there should be a vote on final outcome of negotiations if not a referendum then a parliamentary vote.So maybe that view is gaining momentum .

bobd22

You are of course correct Fred but I still consider there are far more expats that will suffer from low exchange rates than benefit. As you say winners and losers but I guess more expats living in Euroland will lose than will gain.

KieronF

The major problem with that position is that many businesses, large and small, are making adjustments now in anticipation of our declared intention to leave the EU. To suggest that, at the end of two years of preparations, MP's may yet vote to veto the deal would do nothing but add to the already substantial costs for many who are realigning their business strategy - and add further to the long-term uncertainty as to the future of the UK's trading arrangements. Such a move would be catastrophic.

uk_grenada

Frankly the EU is - in my opinion - a dead man walking. Several countries will watch with great interest how brexit and post brexit works, if the uk succeeds I predict within a few years after brexit, as the germans dig for more money fron them, and as the eu tries to take firm control of all fiscal matters, the exodus of richer countries will commence and the euro will tank. Sure, the P.I.G.S. at the trough might cause a meltdown before which will not be recoverable by the germans dragging the french along.