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MikeJ Feb 9th 2015 9:57 am

EUC AGM
 
For those of you not on the CERA mailing list:-

The call for the EUC’s AGM to be held on 26 March 2015, at 16:30h on first call and at 17:30h on second call, at the Casa Grande in Ayamonte. The agenda is as follows:

1. Reading and approval of the previous minutes.

2. Approval, if that may be the case, of the 2014 annual accounts.

3. Management report.

4. Approval of the budget for 2015.

5. Election of the Management Board.

6. Any other business.

As you can see, besides the usual matters, the election of the Board of the EUC is due to take place at this AGM. This is a very important matter, which requires your special consideration as it directly affects the management of the EUC.

Thanks to Marina (CERA). I expect if you join CERA then you could get a copy of the last meeting's minutes.

soyrosa Feb 28th 2015 11:00 am

Re: EUC AGM
 
Hi,
I don't want to sound stupid but what's the difference between CERA and EUC? I'm not sure I got a handle on these organisations. Someone willing to explain please?

Rosa

MikeJ Feb 28th 2015 6:31 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 

Originally Posted by soyrosa (Post 11579570)
Hi,
I don't want to sound stupid but what's the difference between CERA and EUC? I'm not sure I got a handle on these organisations. Someone willing to explain please?

Rosa

CERA is the Costa Esuri Residents Association - a voluntary organisation run by and for residents. Acts as a pressure group at the EUC and Town Hall in support of members interests. Also organises social events etc to promote integration and friendliness among the various communities - in general " a good thing"

EUC is a quasi legal entity set up by the developer and the Town Hall to manage the maintenance of Costa Esuri. It is able to levy taxes on owners. In the past it has taken very little notice of the wishes of the residents and owners because it was set up with very restrictive (and in some views) undemocratic statutes. Under pressure from CERA these are slowly changing. In general EUC was regarded as a 'bad thing' - (but to be fair it has been getting better). It is not known what will happen to the EUC now that Fadesa has been forced into liquidation. The EUC has had its legality challenged by a groups of owners - this is currently subject to legal process.

soyrosa Feb 28th 2015 8:46 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 
Thanks Mike!
all clear now

EsuriJohn Feb 28th 2015 8:54 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 
It is most important that all those eligible to vote attend this meeting so that progress can be made in democratising this organisation that takes over €1 million per year from ESURI owners.

Up until now it has been impossible to have any restraint on what and how the money collected has been spent. The accounts presented over the last five years have been incomprehensible so it has been difficult to work out what actual cost and expenditure is.

This year for the first time we have the opportunity to change the shape of the board to better reflect the aspirations and desires of the owners/residents of Esuri. The board has not changed since the first meeting and has been effectively re-elected by Fadesa each year as their block vote carried the day each year.

This year new Statutes are in force which bring more democracy to the table. The first requirement is as always that the EUC payments are up to date. That means that all plot owners have an individual vote in proportion to their plot size, we should all attend and vote.

The Intercommunties are no longer the voters for the urbanisations. This now belongs to the Communities who's President will hold a vote share in proportion to the plot size and the % of paid-up owners.

Proxy votes are allowed for those eligible who cannot attend. The proxy system has been modified so that is no longer necessary to have the proxy Notarised just that it is formally given and this can be done by email.

So let's not grumble about the excessive costs and lack of maintenance let's turn up and vote to change for the better a system that has been clouded in mystery and suspicion of corruption. Let's see proper understandable accounts with meaningful figures not including €12,000 for coffee and biscuits for board members.

Vote early and vote often let's move this on at a pivotal time for Ubanisation Costa Esuri.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

EsuriJohn Feb 28th 2015 9:01 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 

Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 11579700)
CERA is the Costa Esuri Residents Association - a voluntary organisation run by and for residents. Acts as a pressure group at the EUC and Town Hall in support of members interests. Also organises social events etc to promote integration and friendliness among the various communities - in general " a good thing"

If you wish to join CERA and grow the organisation to the size where it has better representation rights with the Town Hall it is easy to do. If you are in ESURI there is always a representative on duty in the portacabin at the top of the golf club car park next to Marina Esuri on Wednesday and Saturday between 11.30 and 12.30.

The cost is just €10 per year for a whole family membership for all adults at an address.

soyrosa Mar 1st 2015 4:47 am

Re: EUC AGM
 
Thanks John,
Already asked Marina this morning about it :-)

Rosa

EsuriJohn Mar 1st 2015 5:02 am

Re: EUC AGM
 

Originally Posted by soyrosa (Post 11580088)
Thanks John,
Already asked Marina this morning about it :-)

Rosa

Have you joined?

MEL & JOHN Mar 1st 2015 7:40 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 
If we cannot attend can we give our proxy vote to somebody ? is there a form we can complete to validate the request ?

Thanks

Mel

Carol&John Mar 1st 2015 8:41 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 
Hi Mel,

See EsuriJohn's post #5.
"The Intercommunties are no longer the voters for the urbanisations. This now belongs to the Communities who's President will hold a vote share in proportion to the plot size and the % of paid-up owners."

I understand it as thus:
Your manzana President or their representative can vote on your behalf.

Does it mean that each Community President has the final decision on a Yes or No vote? (I think so.)

What if their views are not your views? How does it represent an individual's right to vote against? It doesn't.

In a community of owners, the majority rules.

We are talking about the "ley de propiedad horizontal" here, folks. (Not the same for plot owners.)

EsuriJohn Mar 1st 2015 9:27 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 

Originally Posted by Carol&John (Post 11580521)
Hi Mel,

See EsuriJohn's post #5.
"The Intercommunties are no longer the voters for the urbanisations. This now belongs to the Communities who's President will hold a vote share in proportion to the plot size and the % of paid-up owners."

I understand it as thus:
Your manzana President or their representative can vote on your behalf.

Does it mean that each Community President has the final decision on a Yes or No vote? (I think so.)

What if their views are not your views? How does it represent an individual's right to vote against? It doesn't.

In a community of owners, the majority rules.

We are talking about the "ley de propiedad horizontal" here, folks. (Not the same for plot owners.)

Given time for proper consultation the President should cast the vote in line with the majority view which should be ascertained at an EGM or online if time is short.

This must be better than having the intercommunity voting then disqualifying the intercommunity for as little as one unpaid EUC bill. No intercommunity president has ever voted so far just as Fadesa designed it.

MikeJ Mar 1st 2015 11:36 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 
I have emailed our president asking what arrangements have been made for consultation before the EUC meeting to enable them to vote the wishes of the community.
Although we hope to attend in person.

soyrosa Mar 2nd 2015 6:08 am

Re: EUC AGM
 

Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 11580090)
Have you joined?

Yes we have !

EsuriJohn Mar 2nd 2015 8:28 am

Re: EUC AGM
 

Originally Posted by soyrosa (Post 11580957)
Yes we have !

That's great the more that sign up the stronger our voice with the town hall to get things done on Esuri for ESURIANS.

Teed Up Mar 3rd 2015 11:00 pm

Re: EUC AGM
 

Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 11581115)
That's great the more that sign up the stronger our voice with the town hall to get things done on Esuri for ESURIANS.

Speaking of Town Hall,

Are the so called 5 Millions Euro's,being spent on Esuri yet?.

The roundabout by the new post box is nearly down to the hardcore,not much tarmac left.

Ken.


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