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domo25 Sep 20th 2011 4:11 am

energy costs
 
hi,purchased an apartment some months ago in majorca,electricity bills seem a bit high.is the cost higher than in the uk also is air conditioning costly to run

fionamw Sep 20th 2011 5:59 am

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by domo25 (Post 9632471)
hi,purchased an apartment some months ago in majorca,electricity bills seem a bit high.is the cost higher than in the uk also is air conditioning costly to run

Hope the following helps:
OK I can't interpret this sufficiently accurately, because I don't know the difference between potencia and consumo but I got an electricity bill today from Endesa and it reads (5 bed house, 4 aircon units only some of which in operation at any given time - usually a number of hours nighttime - pool, fridge/freezer, electric oven, water pump, not much else apart from lighting/tv etc.
potencia 4.6kW x 31dias x 0.056529€k/W y dia= 8.06€
consumo 524kWh x 0.142319 €kWh = 74.58
Impto (I assume this means impuesto, tax) Electricidad 82.64€ 4.864% = 4.23
Equipos de medida (presumably meter) 31 dias x 0.019726€/dia = 0.61
total = 87.48
IVA 18% = 15.75
total bill = 103.23€
Bear in mind this is august 8 - September 8 and ESTIMATED (:eek:) I don't really know what to expect next month!

EsuriJohn Sep 20th 2011 7:08 am

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by domo25 (Post 9632471)
hi,purchased an apartment some months ago in majorca,electricity bills seem a bit high.is the cost higher than in the uk also is air conditioning costly to run

Yes and Yes.

teuchterpete Sep 20th 2011 9:10 am

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17 Kwh per day sounds a lot to me. Remember the aircon is just a fridge. How coool are you keeping the house? Do you really need to run all of the units? Sounds like a little housekeeping with the electrical equipment wouldn't go amiss.
Pete

fionamw Sep 20th 2011 4:56 pm

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by teuchterpete (Post 9633081)
17 Kwh per day sounds a lot to me. Remember the aircon is just a fridge. How coool are you keeping the house? Do you really need to run all of the units? Sounds like a little housekeeping with the electrical equipment wouldn't go amiss.
Pete

If that's to me, we NEVER have them all at once - the power would cut out! I reckon in the heat of summer we have my son's on for say 2 hours at bedtime, ours depends on if my OH is here or not, but say 2+ hours overnight, rarely but occasionally the living room. never the other one unless someone's staying. I think the bulk of the cost is the pool & freezer (latter I suspect is starting to die, seems to be working overtime recently)

OP: what were your bills? How bit the apartment?

snikpoh Sep 20th 2011 5:33 pm

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by teuchterpete (Post 9633081)
17 Kwh per day sounds a lot to me. Remember the aircon is just a fridge. How coool are you keeping the house? Do you really need to run all of the units? Sounds like a little housekeeping with the electrical equipment wouldn't go amiss.
Pete

I'm with Iberdrola and my bill (for a similar sized house) is about the same. Yes, electricity is more expensive here.




by-the-way Fiona, Potencia is the amount of power you are contracted for (so a standing charge) and consumo is how much you've used.

johnnyone Sep 20th 2011 6:58 pm

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[QUOTE=fionamw;9632716]potencia 4.6kW [QUOTE]

How often does your supply trip out. This seems a pretty low potencia to me for what you are running.

angiescarr Sep 20th 2011 7:18 pm

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Electricity has gone up a LOT recently. On the other hand Gas bottles still seem relatively cheap. I'm off to buy a gas bottle heater for backup in the winter and thinking of bringing a gas kettle home from my next trip to blighty. We cook on gas and a gas bottle is lasting us around 6 months!

Lynn R Sep 20th 2011 7:38 pm

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 9633568)
Electricity has gone up a LOT recently. On the other hand Gas bottles still seem relatively cheap. I'm off to buy a gas bottle heater for backup in the winter and thinking of bringing a gas kettle home from my next trip to blighty. We cook on gas and a gas bottle is lasting us around 6 months!

Same for us re cooking, Angie, we cook 2 separate evening meals every day and the last gas bottle we changed had lasted 7 months. We rely on a gas heater for most of our winter heating (apart from an electric heater for the bathroom and occasionally an electric fan heater at bedtime if it's particularly cold) and from September last year to September of this year I had bought a total of 8 gas bottles. We don't experience condensation problems in the house from using the gas heater, either, which many people apparently do.

I didn't know you could buy such things as gas kettles, though!

fionamw Sep 20th 2011 7:48 pm

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 9633471)
If that's to me, we NEVER have them all at once - the power would cut out! I reckon in the heat of summer we have my son's on for say 2 hours at bedtime, ours depends on if my OH is here or not, but say 2+ hours overnight, rarely but occasionally the living room. never the other one unless someone's staying. I think the bulk of the cost is the pool & freezer (latter I suspect is starting to die, seems to be working overtime recently)

OP: what were your bills? How bit the apartment?


dur that should have read how big the apartment...:o

When we had some work done and realised there didn't seem to be a boletin, so got it checked out and got one, I at the same time upped the required amount (now I know that's potencia), in the process explaining pool, fr/freezer, aircons etc and the woman suggested the rating we've got.....

angiescarr Sep 20th 2011 8:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 9633588)
Same for us re cooking, Angie, we cook 2 separate evening meals every day and the last gas bottle we changed had lasted 7 months. We rely on a gas heater for most of our winter heating (apart from an electric heater for the bathroom and occasionally an electric fan heater at bedtime if it's particularly cold) and from September last year to September of this year I had bought a total of 8 gas bottles. We don't experience condensation problems in the house from using the gas heater, either, which many people apparently do.

I didn't know you could buy such things as gas kettles, though!

Ha Ha! Maybe I should have been clearer. Just a kettle...to put on the gas:rofl:

jackytoo Sep 20th 2011 8:30 pm

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We had a potencia of 9. When we moved in was around 5 and sometimes it would blow if oven, pool pump were all on. Don't know if it's still there but on Endesa web there used to be a calculator to find out required potencia. Cheapest we had was the gas hob, gas bottle would last months.

Rosemary Sep 20th 2011 8:35 pm

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 9633616)
Ha Ha! Maybe I should have been clearer. Just a kettle...to put on the gas:rofl:

We have one for emergency use, bought it locally.

Graham

fionamw Sep 20th 2011 8:49 pm

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The Endesa potencia calculator still exists, here: http://tinyurl.com/5v6hmbv
It says our supply is at the right level. Still cuts out if there's too much on, though!

Lynn R Sep 20th 2011 11:25 pm

Re: energy costs
 

Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 9633616)
Ha Ha! Maybe I should have been clearer. Just a kettle...to put on the gas:rofl:

I may be being particularly dim today (wouldn't be the first time) but wouldn't a saucepan do just as well?


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