the end of the euro in Spain
#91
Re: the end of the euro in Spain
UK might end up not as a member of EU, but in the same game as other countries with close ties. I wouldn't worry.
#92
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
I cant see the problem anyway. There are other countries in the EU who dont use the euro, who dont get involved with the euro decisions, and they are doing just fine!
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#93
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
I think you have badly misread the situation, I don't think anyone believes we have "effectively left Europe", or even come anywhere close to it. Unfortunately, I don't even believe we will leave, and without the prospect of a referendum, and I see none on the horizon, it's not even a possibility. I forsee a lot more grief for Europe in the coming weeks or months, now that is a possibility.
#94
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
I get the impression that people cheering the UK having effectively left Europe are safely back in the UK at this time. But the majority of us on this expat forum are still in Spain. We live with our European neighbours who are not exactly applauding Cameron, they think he's a stuck-up Tory prat who doesn't give a toss about Europe.
At a stroke, the EU can now alter the various laws to send us back home, we won't have any say in this, we are no longer at the table.
As always, it will be the little things that turn the tide. One example is the reciprocal health service agreements. They're not paid by the UK as people think, they are paid by Brussels. There are many other examples, residencias and driving licences among them.
Once we are all safely back in the UK, we can join the others standing on the rainy cliffs of Dover, staring out over the grey sea towards the invisible land on the other side. We can join the chorus saying it's all Hitler's fault.
If the sky lifts a bit we may catch a glimpse of Dunkirk. Why did we ever go back?
At a stroke, the EU can now alter the various laws to send us back home, we won't have any say in this, we are no longer at the table.
As always, it will be the little things that turn the tide. One example is the reciprocal health service agreements. They're not paid by the UK as people think, they are paid by Brussels. There are many other examples, residencias and driving licences among them.
Once we are all safely back in the UK, we can join the others standing on the rainy cliffs of Dover, staring out over the grey sea towards the invisible land on the other side. We can join the chorus saying it's all Hitler's fault.
If the sky lifts a bit we may catch a glimpse of Dunkirk. Why did we ever go back?
Jo xxx
#95
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
Its not about leaving Europe, its about not getting involved with the currency or being expected to have our financial institutions run by Brussels (suicide for the UK IMO). Leaving Europe isnt nowt to do with it - in any case, people have been moving to Spain long before the EU was even invented!
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This would probably make GB poorer than Greece.
Most of us, including those who seem to shout alot about it, are happy that we are involved in the EU, we have gained alot, but then perhaps we have lost a fair bit as well, but it all evens out.
getting back to the OP Thread, I don't see Spain leaving the Eurozone whether of own volition or pushed out. This is and has always been for the long haul. I don't see a future without the Euro in Spain.
#96
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
Its not about leaving Europe, its about not getting involved with the currency or being expected to have our financial institutions run by Brussels (suicide for the UK IMO). Leaving Europe isnt nowt to do with it - in any case, people have been moving to Spain long before the EU was even invented!
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#97
Re: the end of the euro in Spain
If that's so then why is Britain and also Spain, France, Germany etc., swamped with people from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia and other countries which are not members of the EU most with employment and some receiving benefits they haven't contributed towards. Can anyone explain that
#98
Re: the end of the euro in Spain
If that's so then why is Britain and also Spain, France, Germany etc., swamped with people from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia and other countries which are not members of the EU most with employment and some receiving benefits they haven't contributed towards. Can anyone explain that
#99
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
I lived in Spain before the EU and so did a lot of other people, you just had to show a bank statement to show you could support yourself, then go get your papers.
#100
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
When you live abroad, it's useful not to be racist (or worry about the ethnic mix in the 'country of your birth'). Let it go...
Better now?
Better now?
#101
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
If they did leave the EU the only real thing I can see that might affect us badly is that Medical treatment that is free might stop.
#102
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
I think most have missed the point, cameron was not looking after the intrest of the British.
He was looking after the intrest of the rich.
We will not benefit from this, but the richest 5% in Britain would have paid more.
I cant believe how many have people have believed the prpaganda.
He was looking after the intrest of the rich.
We will not benefit from this, but the richest 5% in Britain would have paid more.
I cant believe how many have people have believed the prpaganda.
#103
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehou...-eu-veto.thtml Interesting article.
#104
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Re: the end of the euro in Spain
If that's so then why is Britain and also Spain, France, Germany etc., swamped with people from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia and other countries which are not members of the EU most with employment and some receiving benefits they haven't contributed towards. Can anyone explain that
they then registered at so called schools, such as the ones in/near Manchester where they had a couple of hundred registered but only classroom places for about 30. Most never went there, but so long as they passed the fees over they got certificates showing their "attendance" and pass in whatever subject they wanted. Many subjects didnt have a teacher qualified to teach it.
Once they get settled then they bring their family over. A recent deportation court action centred around a guy in his 20's who had his mother and sister here to provide him with a natural family environment whilst he "studied".
#105
Re: the end of the euro in Spain
If that's so then why is Britain and also Spain, France, Germany etc., swamped with people from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia and other countries which are not members of the EU most with employment and some receiving benefits they haven't contributed towards. Can anyone explain that
HBG doesn't usually spout bollocks - I wonder what he's about?