jdr

The most sensible post in the thread.

EllisG

wasn't it Clinton that introduced the right for rednecks without 2 cents to rub together to buy a home with a cheap mortgage ? The other lot bundled up this mistake and palmed it off on the rest of the world

jimenato

No we are not - we are still a full member of the EU (assuming you mean the UK).

Loads of Brits lived in Spain before the EU and loads of Brits live in non-EU countries. You are over-reacting.

Can you explain why you think you might need to? I mean we all might have to in the event of extreme civil unrest or something like that but us leaving the EU wouldn't in itself force repatriation - and anyway we haven't left the EU.

HBG

Yes, I am over- reacting, but only in the sense of keeping an interesting discussion going. None of my ‘gloom’ predictions are going to happen, I hope.

Spain is fully committed to remaining in the Eurozone, the Eurozone is going to prosper and Spanish unemployment levels are going to come down.

I’ve come to a crossroads in my reasoning and I’m sorry about it. If we are not in the EU, it would surely make sense for the EU to send us back to whence we came?

jimenato

I don't see why if we are net contributors. Would the UK send Abramovitch and his ilk away? Not that I'm in that league exactly - or even at all.

Lion in Winter

Erm, the Chinese have thousands and thousands of years of cultural history behind them, and China has over a billion citizens encompassing a vast geographic area and multiple sub-cultures.

Which Chinese are you referring to exactly?

johnnyone

The reality is that once China overtakes the western economy it will become expansionist. (c20years?)
We might as well get on their side sooner rather than later.

rugbymatt

The slitty eyed ones?

rugbymatt

I am LOVING the news reports! Hell, I'm loving these days, its just brilliant, they are going on and on and on and on about us being "left out in the cold".... we've always been out in the cold, even during what most Torries call the glory days of Thatcher when she managed to "negotiate" our Rebate that is held up as a glory moment for Britain, never mentioning that among other things that she signed away she also signed away our Veto.... Good I say, I'm bloody glad we have done this, it means that when recovery comes, and it will, and Europe is crippled by debt, it will leave us in a much better position.

As to those who say we may have to leave the EU completely I have a feeling you need to check the fine print, if we are expelled or asked to leave that will cause a vote and even the most Euro loving pundits feel that may cause an opening of the flood gates!

"May you live in interesting times".

HBG

That’s a bit of a skewed argument, with respect. Rich people will always be welcomed, everywhere. Scotland is turning more socialist as we speak, and nationalist too, yet they allowed Donald Trump to buy up a large chunk of their beautiful country to build a golf course and luxury hotel for his mates.

The Premier league is owned by foreigners with money and the plebs trot along each Saturday to hand them their hard-earned cash. I belong to the Torry Army, we support our local football team, without us they would be playing in a lower league with only a handful of supporters.

Neil Diamond sings a song about it, with poignant words. Money talks.

jimenato

But I am still a net contributor as are many Brits in Spain. Why would they want us to go?

Leper

I did not read all the posts in this thread. But, speaking as an Irishman if I had the choice of being aligned to the Euro or the GBP£, I would have no hesitation in opting for the GBP£.

The Euro will survive, but at a price and after a long monetary war. The EU will be taken over by Germany and France with the likes of Ireland being a federal state with little or no say in anything.

The more I think of the situation the more I think Hitler won the war posthumously. Britain is about to stand alone again, but for its "better."

agoreira

Brilliant, bring it on, I love being left out in the cold, we´re islanders, we weren´t meant to be in any bl00dy EU club! We´ve survived well on our own for hundreds of years, (plus with the help of our commonwealth cousins when we needed them fighting against our fellow Europeans) do people think we'll suddenly sink into oblivion? I have no illusions about our importance in the world today, but we're still about the sixth biggest trading nation, lots more smaller countries than ours are doing fine on their own.

Lionda

Exactly what I, and many others I've spoken with, have said

Lionda