Ka Ora!

Tell me about it i am a computer engineer i have a CCNA a CNE a MCSE and have just got my ACDP and ACPT which are Apple Certs in this day and age every idiot that owns a screwdriver is a computer engineer or web site this or that. But they wont get certification to back up their claims. and they don't deliver the goods.

spain

more shocking stories tonight on house of horrors on ITV, anyone see it ?

they want people to get in touch who have been ripped off http://www.itv.com/page.asp?partid=5687

wonder if there is a similar thing in Spain ?.......I know a few years back there was a website spanish pirates or something similar but that went offline

dazzle

I absolutely agree. In the case of property managers working illegally, you would of course be handing over your house keys to a liar and a cheat! Tax evasion etc is a criminal offence!

If they find it so easy to lie to the authorities how on earth could you be certain that they would be honest in their dealings with you, the customer!

I have heard stories of property managers renting out houses without the owners knowledge in order to pocket the rental income themselves.

Not declaring income to the authorities and not declaring it to the owners of the property doesn't seem that different to me!

poollounger

I am glad that so many people feel the same. As to RugbyMatt's comment.. yes I take your point about degrees of legality, but life is never so black and white, even where the law is concerned. A single mum struggling to manage on the social because her partner has vanished may be earning a few bob to get her through, but may then go out to work once her kids are grown and return what she received. Quite a different thing to the person who sets up a business in a competitive market and can compete because they are illegal and untaxed.
As to the security aspect of employing an illegal business..if things went wrong, I presume one couldn't issue a denuncia or report it to the police??
I am not advocating we report every suspected case of illegal earning etc. and create a big brother atmosphere. Would the best way to police it and be fair to those who are trying to earn an honest living be not to employ the others ?

dazzle

Absolutely! It certainly doesn't make sense for people who are making a living honestly to then go and employ illegal workers when they need work doing does it?

valenciatim

I am sure that I have read somewhere that it is actually illegal to employ and illegal person or business! Something to do with insurance.
Tim

David

This is another very interesting issue to the question of working illegally. I have a building firm and have to pay incredible amounts in public liability, 3rd party and other insurances as well as social security payments to insure my workers. If any of them where to have an accident at work they and I would be fully covered.

However if you as a private individual employ a builder or other worker to work on your property DO make sure they have insurance or at the very least are covered by Social Security. If they are not covered and have an accident you could be sued and if found liable be forced to pay for any damages. In this day and age of claim culture you need to be very careful.

ironporer

Now I would have expected that from the locals here, but never from proper English speakin' folk.

Dog eat dog is an informal expression which means ruthless competition, and looking out for oneself, as in "It's a dog eat dog world."

poollounger

Has anyone ever seen a dog eat a dog?? I never have, even on those wildlife programmes so beloved by BBC2.

ironporer

Probably only Chinese dogs.

keithwalters

Is this question something to do with muff eating lesbians?

Pam Sarky

rugbymatt

Who would have thought it from Keith eh??

Pam Sarky

And theres me thinking butter wouldnt melt

rugbymatt

I always had my suspicions........ now me, I would have expected it from some on here.