Employing family for free
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Employing family for free
Wasnt sure how to title this thread!
My friend and I have purchased a bar in spain and are registered etc etc to begin trading in a few weeks.
. We cannot legally employ family, this we know. however, is there any law against family working for us for free?
anyone got any experience of this they can share please?
My friend and I have purchased a bar in spain and are registered etc etc to begin trading in a few weeks.
. We cannot legally employ family, this we know. however, is there any law against family working for us for free?
anyone got any experience of this they can share please?
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Re: Employing family for free
Wasnt sure how to title this thread!
My friend and I have purchased a bar in spain and are registered etc etc to begin trading in a few weeks.
. We cannot legally employ family, this we know. however, is there any law against family working for us for free?
anyone got any experience of this they can share please?
My friend and I have purchased a bar in spain and are registered etc etc to begin trading in a few weeks.
. We cannot legally employ family, this we know. however, is there any law against family working for us for free?
anyone got any experience of this they can share please?
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Re: Employing family for free
our assessor informed us we couldn't employ our husbands. Actually we don't want to employ them, we just want them to help us out for free, that was the issue but he said we couldn't do that either
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Then I suspect that a vast majority of Spanish bars are totally illegal
#5
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Utter rubbish!
I know of MANY Spanish couple that work together in the same business and many again where the wife and/or husband is 'employed' by the other.
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I would seek a second opinion (not from BE )
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Re: Employing family for free
Many conflicting answers out there, the OH would work, doubt he would get any of those benefits! eating profits!! I am trying to get second opinion but was asking in case anyone has had actual experience of this problem
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Re: Employing family for free
I am guessing from my limited experience of running my own bar some time ago and employing people the answer as to whether you can employ/let help out for nothing the family member depends on the personal circumstances of that family member. If you pay their social security/tax you can employ them (and allow to help out for nothing but in this case would it really be worthwhile ?). The only way they can help you out for nothing would be if they themselves are autonomo and therefore paying their own social security.
#9
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The whole family work in my favourite bar. Grandfather, Grandmother, Father, Mother and Daughter.
I would suggest OP finds another "assessor".
PS: What is an assessor?
I would suggest OP finds another "assessor".
PS: What is an assessor?
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Re: Employing family for free
yes Assessor is like an accountant. I am going to go to a solicitor and ask I think
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Re: Employing family for free
If this is accurate it seems nobody can work for free in Spain.
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Re: Employing family for free
Wasnt sure how to title this thread!
My friend and I have purchased a bar in spain and are registered etc etc to begin trading in a few weeks.
. We cannot legally employ family, this we know. however, is there any law against family working for us for free?
anyone got any experience of this they can share please?
My friend and I have purchased a bar in spain and are registered etc etc to begin trading in a few weeks.
. We cannot legally employ family, this we know. however, is there any law against family working for us for free?
anyone got any experience of this they can share please?
On first visit, inspeccion trabajo(INSS) may tolerate it, but not on subsequent visits.
Your assessor is also correct in that family members cannot be employees (considered fraudulent).
Self-employed/autonomo is the only option for family members.
#14
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We had to pay the contributions for the 2 of us and present a joint tax declaration. The law was changed about 2005 I think, so that helping out for free by husband/wives was made illegal. The places on either side of us were all illegal (Every time they changed hands too), none of them paid anything official for family or other labour. You cannot have free labour because of insurance cover for accidents etc, this is the same in the UK or in any of the Western EU countries. You will also need to take the HACCP courses and certification for handling and administration of food.
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Working for free is not allowed as it's considered slave labour which is illegal.
On first visit, inspeccion trabajo(INSS) may tolerate it, but not on subsequent visits.
Your assessor is also correct in that family members cannot be employees (considered fraudulent).
Self-employed/autonomo is the only option for family members.
On first visit, inspeccion trabajo(INSS) may tolerate it, but not on subsequent visits.
Your assessor is also correct in that family members cannot be employees (considered fraudulent).
Self-employed/autonomo is the only option for family members.