Dual British/Spanish nationality?
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
If you are born here, live here and will probably stay here, then there is an advantage to DUAL nationality. The problem is that Spain does not accept this form of dual nationality, unlike many other EU countries which do. The UK has no problem with it, but officially speaking, Spain does. Spain only accepts dual nationality when the countries are Ibero-American, Philippines, etc. It would be advantageous in practical terms for to my son to have both. As for what goes on in his head re his nationhood, that's another matter!
In other words, a person who is a dual Spanish/other citizen may keep the foreign nationality at age 18. There might be penalties for carrying a foreign passport or exercising the rights of a foreign citizenship - but there is no obligation on a British citizen to carry a British passport, especially if he or she has another passport allowing entry to the UK.
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
There was a recent case of a woman born in Canada to a British immigrant family. At the age of six months she returned to the UK with her parents and stayed there, eventually acquiring a Canadian passport.
In her sixties and retired from a civil service job in the UK, the woman went on holiday to Canada.
When she returned to the UK, she was allowed to enter, but was told she would have to leave after six months.
In her sixties and retired from a civil service job in the UK, the woman went on holiday to Canada.
When she returned to the UK, she was allowed to enter, but was told she would have to leave after six months.
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
There was a recent case of a woman born in Canada to a British immigrant family. At the age of six months she returned to the UK with her parents and stayed there, eventually acquiring a Canadian passport.
In her sixties and retired from a civil service job in the UK, the woman went on holiday to Canada.
When she returned to the UK, she was allowed to enter, but was told she would have to leave after six months.
In her sixties and retired from a civil service job in the UK, the woman went on holiday to Canada.
When she returned to the UK, she was allowed to enter, but was told she would have to leave after six months.
IF she isn't a British citizen - which she may not be if her father was born outside Britain - then she has a problem and could be one of the many long time illegal migrants who were "waved through" as tourists many years ago and never obtained permanent resident status. Although as a Canadian citizen, if she arrived in the UK before mid-1962 she would have been exempted from immigration control, she would need to prove that to get her immigration stamp. If her mother was born in Britain but her father was not, then as a Canadian she would have Right of Abode, but needs the stamp to prove it.
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
If she is a British citizen, then that's not true and she does not need to leave ... but she should get a British passport to prove her British citizenship.
IF she isn't a British citizen - which she may not be if her father was born outside Britain - then she has a problem and could be one of the many long time illegal migrants who were "waved through" as tourists many years ago and never obtained permanent resident status. Although as a Canadian citizen, if she arrived in the UK before mid-1962 she would have been exempted from immigration control, she would need to prove that to get her immigration stamp. If her mother was born in Britain but her father was not, then as a Canadian she would have Right of Abode, but needs the stamp to prove it.
IF she isn't a British citizen - which she may not be if her father was born outside Britain - then she has a problem and could be one of the many long time illegal migrants who were "waved through" as tourists many years ago and never obtained permanent resident status. Although as a Canadian citizen, if she arrived in the UK before mid-1962 she would have been exempted from immigration control, she would need to prove that to get her immigration stamp. If her mother was born in Britain but her father was not, then as a Canadian she would have Right of Abode, but needs the stamp to prove it.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...7030342AAWi6dM
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
This is more or less agreeing with what you have said, that if she doesn't have a British passport or birth certificate then she has been treated correctly. But it seems easy to remedy.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...7030342AAWi6dM
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...7030342AAWi6dM
However the principle is a very strong one ... always make sure you have the right immigration/citizenship status and the papers to prove it.
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
I have just posted an enquiry about passports for my son and started thinking... my South American husband has been granted Spanish nationality, our son currently has a British passport only (he was born in Spain), could he be granted Spanish nationality through my husband? And would this be a problem for him in any way? The Spanish passport is so much cheaper... that would be a major advantage, and he could get a Spanish ID card, I often wonder whether it is to his advantage, I'm not against them in principle, have got used to the whole thing now, and it might make life a bit easier for him than always dragging out the bit of paper and his British passport for any procedures. Any (informed) ideas please!
I'm British and my hisband is Spanish and we automatically got my daughter a Spanish passport. Personally I can see no advantages in having one over the other apart from the Spanish one was easier to get. Being in the EU it doesn't make much difference. If your husband still had his South American nationality then that would be different.
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
There's the rub Mataroni, because neither of us were Spanish when he was born we couldn't get him a Spanish passport. Your husband is Spanish so no problem for you. Many people that being born here automatically confers Spanish nationality, but it doesn't.
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
Spain will only allow a person to have dual nationality if they are from the former colonies. Otherwise it is not allowed by the Spanish. The UK are OK with dual nationality..
I understand that people taking Spanish nationality swear the oath of allegiance and denounce their previous nationality. But afterwards "forget" that have done it. The secret then is never to carry both passports when in Spain.
I recently took up Irish nationality (free after one is 65) so I am dual UK/ Irish now. UK and Ireland have no objection.
At 165 euros I will not be renewing my UK passport Jose !
I understand that people taking Spanish nationality swear the oath of allegiance and denounce their previous nationality. But afterwards "forget" that have done it. The secret then is never to carry both passports when in Spain.
I recently took up Irish nationality (free after one is 65) so I am dual UK/ Irish now. UK and Ireland have no objection.
At 165 euros I will not be renewing my UK passport Jose !
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Re: Dual British/Spanish nationality?
I have just posted an enquiry about passports for my son and started thinking... my South American husband has been granted Spanish nationality, our son currently has a British passport only (he was born in Spain), could he be granted Spanish nationality through my husband? And would this be a problem for him in any way? The Spanish passport is so much cheaper... that would be a major advantage, and he could get a Spanish ID card, I often wonder whether it is to his advantage, I'm not against them in principle, have got used to the whole thing now, and it might make life a bit easier for him than always dragging out the bit of paper and his British passport for any procedures. Any (informed) ideas please!
Last edited by blondy123; Mar 31st 2011 at 6:27 pm. Reason: wanted to add a bit more