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Originally Posted by Maybe1day (Post 11090183)

The battle is already lost unless "Drastic" steps are taken. If nothing important happens soon, In the west, one hundred years will see a radical change in religious belief and a face off with India and on a wider scale China.
Maybe the timescale is a little short at 5 generations so maybe it should be 10but this will happen...

well I won't be here then - this is one of those cases where we have to face the reality of the here and now

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11089893)

Once again, were it ever so simple.

Relying on one last line of defence regardless of improvements would be extremely foolish.
All systems are fallible to some degree.
How do you expect them to recognize every single would-be terrorist ?

In any event there are other means for terrorists to enter the country than via the the standard customs controls.

The more lines of defence and protection, the better in my book.

whilst I agree with a military strategy that has more than one line of defence, I do not agree with a military strategy that has a line of defence 3544.42 miles (5704.04 km) from home. That is forward of the forward line.

We are not alone in all of this, we have to rely on our other human beings along the way to act as a form of defence, both of themselves and others.
There are, as the crow flies, approximately 12 countries between us and Afghanistan whilst Pakistan is one country beyond that.
We should be liaising with those countries to assist them with their defence not taking the US attitude of being the policemen of the world.
More can be done against countries by economic means rather than flying drones in to knock out a terrorist training camp located in the middle of an active school, mosque or similar where innocents are being used as a hostage/wall against attack.

Difficult one I know, but better to keep the enemy at arms length than to go out there and take him on in his own terretory
The GDY's did that in the 60's - and it took them over 20 years and over 60,000 of their own dead and MIA before they had to leave Saigon in a hurry.

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11091215)

It's a small World that we live in these days and constantly getting smaller.

As we've already seen such distances are now of little or no consequence or barrier of any sort against terrorist movements and activities.

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11091653)

then with all the Western Technology why do we get the impression they are winning
they shoot and bomb our soldiers and take us to international and UK courts for commiting atrocities against their people whilst we just give in and pay up
meanwhile our soldiers end up in court for responding to their attacks in the best way they know accused of murder - and get sent down because they are found guilty whilst their adversaries end up getting compensatory payments from the Defence Budget
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too many fluffy bunnies around that would suddenly shit themselves if they actually spent some time in combat instead sitting at home or in an office worrying about why this and that didnt agree with the Rules of Combat that don't cover the actual situation when the RoC was written decades before to cover a different situation.
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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 11091750)

then with all the Western Technology why do we get the impression they are winning

Thankfully there has only been one single serious atrocity in the UK against one single person in the last few years or more.

I don't put that down solely to good fortune.

no by good intelligence work, by ensuring that those who aspire to meeting the Virgins are sidelined, imprisoned and kept away from those they can harm.

the Human Rights of the individual are sacrosanct - but take a back seat to the rights of the majority.

the day you give in to the rights of the individual is the day when you let the wolf packs loose on the innocents of your country.

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 11225050)

Hi-tec thieves.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eal-drugs.html

Crims stealing from crims is fine, it's when you see them hovering over school playgrounds and member's gardens that you need to get worried. ;)

The growers for private use round here don't need fancy lights and soil, they just stick them in the garden or on terraces and away they go. You don't need fancy drones to spot the growers either, you can smell them as you walk past.

The plants are just weeds with a funny smell that make you high.

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 11226082)

http://qz.com/200011/spains-sudden-b...film-industry/

They do make a habit of shooting themselves in the foot, so nothing new there.
Now if they'd only put their brains into gear first and given a little thought to modifying the law in a common sense manner first of all, ......but no it simply doesn't work that way down here.

This morning, 13 dead in Yemen from a drone bombing, 10 bad guys and 3 civilians. 30+ new recruits for Al Qaida? A coward is a person who gives up his life fighting the enemy. (Bush and Obama) While a soldier with a super play station is a hero !!!
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Originally Posted by Maybe1day (Post 11226362)

I assume this is some way connected with my earlier post about Spain banning drones, a post in which I clearly stated it was about civilian use, the military was still free to do whatever it wants. Maybe a post about military drones might be an idea.

The latest Spanish laws on Drones
http://www.feada.org/files/Documento...los_drones.pdf
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