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Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Looks like this is moving forward - 100% tax on property purchases for non-EU/non-resident buyers
https://www.spainenglish.com/2025/05...-eu-nationals/ There is now rampant inflation in Spanish house prices—mine was valued at 182,000€ last October—this month, according to Idealista, it has increased to 253,000€ —around 40%. I have never seen anything like it in 25 years of living here including the building booms. https://www.spanishpropertyinsight.c...rranean-coast/ |
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It says in your second link that my town has seen the highest property price increase over the last 12 months, 17.6% and I can believe it. A flat in my block was advertised for sale recently, the asking price being more than double what I paid 8 years ago. It's mad, we don't even have many tourist rentals here, Airbnb or otherwise.
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Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
The problem with Spain is that (as everyone knows who has lived here over 25 years) it can have ridiculous booms and equally terrible busts. Whereas the UK has highs and lows it never suffers the extremes of Spain. I remember back in early 2000s where everyone thought they were on a winner then suddenly....people were paying mortgages which exceeded the property worth by 50% . I bought back in 1998. Since then had 3 different places. The last was in 2018. The owners bought it for 96.000 and sold for 66.000 they were so upset when they were at the notary they didn't even make eye contact with me.!
Meanwhile the new proposals that I read said nothing about the 100% tax on non EU non resident - simply that there would be taxes increased on this group. What was interesting was the 21 % vat on tourist rentals plus new tax on vacant properties which will be determined by electricity use. This could mean that non principal homes might pay a new tax. Either way even if the proposals take time to get voted on and approved some kind of tax is going to filter through to all of us. |
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What proposals did you read? Have you got a link? All the ones I have read talk about the 100% on purchase and the 21% on tourist rentals...
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Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by spainrico
(Post 13312621)
What proposals did you read? Have you got a link? All the ones I have read talk about the 100% on purchase and the 21% on tourist rentals...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/5715183/0/asi-es-propuesta-psoe-para-acabar-con-crisis-vivienda-penalizar-los-pisos-vacios-bonificaciones/&ved=2ahUKEwj79qf85sCNAxXNSKQEHWXDAzEQFnoECB0QAQ&u sg=AOvVaw1qbDPRN4gXJuxYQIStOhHw |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
This covers a lot of relevant and interesting points
https://www.idealista.com/en/news/fi...cannot-be-done |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by spainrico
(Post 13312623)
This covers a lot of relevant and interesting points
https://www.idealista.com/en/news/fi...cannot-be-done |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by spainrico
(Post 13312614)
Looks like this is moving forward - 100% tax on property purchases for non-EU/non-resident buyers
https://www.spainenglish.com/2025/05...-eu-nationals/ There is now rampant inflation in Spanish house prices—mine was valued at 182,000€ last October—this month, according to Idealista, it has increased to 253,000€ —around 40%. I have never seen anything like it in 25 years of living here including the building booms. https://www.spanishpropertyinsight.c...rranean-coast/ We all know that the Spanish own more second homes that are rented or left empty than any foreigners. I agree with speculators being taxed heavily and its something the Uk should also do (cant abide these shows where MrX says he owns 30 plus properties as a retirement income when all of them are mortgaged) but thats not the point here. Taxing any non EU foreigner 100% of the purchase price on a property is just going to do one of two things. Clever Spanish companies will be selling lifetime interests in property to foreigners but the property will remain in the Spanish company name and can only be sold or traded through them. People will sell up and flock to any country that doesnt have these types of law. I can think of a few countries east of here that will welcome people and the property prices are already alot lower than here and these places have good summers as well. My 2c |
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The Sanchez government is so weak they can't even pass the 2025 budget let alone something like this. He can barely hold his hopeless coalition together so yet again this is just him pretending to do something when in reality he can't do anything meaningful.
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Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
No sign of prices going down but how long it can last, I don't know. I see the same in Catalonia and nothing has worked to reduce prices, every time you look it's getting more expensive.
Non EU residents/citizens aren't really the problem and more and more people are getting EU passports. We see it in Ireland and the demand is huge, so be it the wealthy Americans or people who have been resident for 5 years, they all eventually become EU residents and might want a holiday home. https://www.irishexaminer.com/busine...-41625949.html |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by Moses2013
(Post 13312657)
No sign of prices going down but how long it can last, I don't know. I see the same in Catalonia and nothing has worked to reduce prices, every time you look it's getting more expensive.
Non EU residents/citizens aren't really the problem and more and more people are getting EU passports. We see it in Ireland and the demand is huge, so be it the wealthy Americans or people who have been resident for 5 years, they all eventually become EU residents and might want a holiday home. https://www.irishexaminer.com/busine...-41625949.html https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._Upb9LBdN-FqpI |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by Moses2013
(Post 13312657)
We see it in Ireland and the demand is huge, so be it the wealthy Americans or people who have been resident for 5 years, they all eventually become EU residents and might want a holiday home.
Basically the idea should be that investing in second properties is the worst investment out there. Once that is the general outlook you will know that the legal changes have finally done their job. |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 13312731)
Impose massive taxes on second/holiday homes, basically on all properties that are not used as someone's primary place of residence.
Basically the idea should be that investing in second properties is the worst investment out there. Once that is the general outlook you will know that the legal changes have finally done their job. |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by 1sexsmith
(Post 13312718)
That's not true. The opposite infact. The big thing that PSOE are pointing out is that in Catalunya who have actually implemented la ley de viviendas prices are dropping.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._Upb9LBdN-FqpI https://www.catalannews.com/business...-in-early-2025 House prices going up further and hardly any stock. |
Re: Draft bill submitted for 100% tax on property..
Originally Posted by astera
(Post 13312731)
Impose massive taxes on second/holiday homes, basically on all properties that are not used as someone's primary place of residence.
Basically the idea should be that investing in second properties is the worst investment out there. Once that is the general outlook you will know that the legal changes have finally done their job. We also talk about wealthy holiday home owners. Some people often just have a bit of land they inherited or use as a weekend getaway, these people are far from wealthy but it's still not their main residence. |
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