Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Europe > Spain
Reload this Page >

Do you want to vote in the UK?

Do you want to vote in the UK?

Old May 4th 2022, 8:21 am
  #1  
BE Forum Addict
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: Costa Blanca
Posts: 3,142
spainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond reputespainrico has a reputation beyond repute
Default Do you want to vote in the UK?

Britons living overseas for 15 years to get right to vote in UK elections (yes I know it has been promised before)


British nationals living overseas for more than 15 years are set to get the right to vote in UK general elections, after a proposed change in the law passed a critical stage in the House of Lords.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Other
spainrico is offline  
Old May 4th 2022, 8:35 am
  #2  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Fredbargate's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Land of no recession
Posts: 10,717
Fredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond reputeFredbargate has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

I do not at present live in the UK and therefore do not believe I need the right to vote there.
I left of my own free choice.

I now vote in my country of residence.
Fredbargate is offline  
Old May 4th 2022, 8:55 am
  #3  
Started off with nothing
 
missile's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,944
missile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

It is a Tory ploy to gain more votes.

I can't see any other justification for those who have left for more than 15 years to be given a vote.
missile is offline  
Old May 4th 2022, 11:05 am
  #4  
Home and Happy
 
Pollyana's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Location: Keep true friends and puppets close, trust no-one else...
Posts: 93,807
Pollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by missile
It is a Tory ploy to gain more votes.

I can't see any other justification for those who have left for more than 15 years to be given a vote.
For some of us moving back (from wherever), this is invaluable, as it gives us the chance to get back on the Electoral Roll before we move.
Pollyana is offline  
Old May 4th 2022, 11:23 am
  #5  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 5,614
bobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by missile
It is a Tory ploy to gain more votes.

I can't see any other justification for those who have left for more than 15 years to be given a vote.
Many people continue to pay income tax in the UK so why shouldn't be able to vote? Its the only way of getting a chance of representation on the taxes one pays. If people don't wish to take up the right to vote they can always simply not take up the offer.
bobd22 is offline  
Old May 4th 2022, 1:05 pm
  #6  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Location: Nerja
Posts: 599
Joppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by bobd22
Many people continue to pay income tax in the UK so why shouldn't be able to vote? Its the only way of getting a chance of representation on the taxes one pays. If people don't wish to take up the right to vote they can always simply not take up the offer.
Also EU referendum had a marked effect on British citizen living in EU, even if they moved there decades ago and had little if any liability to UK tax, as it might affect their freedom of movement, even though at that time we weren't sure what kind of Brexit it may lead to. It's water under the bridge now, but we may wonder who will be eligible to vote in future Scottish independence referendum, as it may have a big effect on residency status should Scotland re-enter EU.
Joppa is offline  
Old May 4th 2022, 2:59 pm
  #7  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jun 2020
Location: Valencia
Posts: 504
SanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond reputeSanNico has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

I would continue to vote in the generals until my kids turn 18. After that I would say it's not my place. However, I'm not sure what I'd be voting for. One does whatever he feels like and the other says he would do the exact opposite even if it's the right thing. North of the border must be even worse. A vote for SNP just secures a Tory government with free prescriptions.
SanNico is offline  
Old May 4th 2022, 3:07 pm
  #8  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 5,614
bobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond reputebobd22 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by Joppa
Also EU referendum had a marked effect on British citizen living in EU, even if they moved there decades ago and had little if any liability to UK tax, as it might affect their freedom of movement, even though at that time we weren't sure what kind of Brexit it may lead to. It's water under the bridge now, but we may wonder who will be eligible to vote in future Scottish independence referendum, as it may have a big effect on residency status should Scotland re-enter EU.
Yes I agree.
bobd22 is offline  
Old May 5th 2022, 6:47 pm
  #9  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
mrken30's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Location: Portlandia Metro
Posts: 7,425
mrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

I also still have property , private pension and State pension in the UK. I also have kids with British citizenship and family in the UK. I also still have the right to live there and may move back at some point. For all these reasons , plus the fact I pay UK taxes, I feel I should have the option to vote until I have no links with the country. Non-doms living in the UK have the right to vote, so why shouldn't I?

Did this law pass?

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/04/2...-election-law/
mrken30 is offline  
Old May 5th 2022, 6:55 pm
  #10  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Location: Nerja
Posts: 599
Joppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond reputeJoppa has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by mrken30
Yes, and has received Royal Assent.
But:
'The Elections Act 2022 received Royal Assent on 28 April 2022. It includes provisions to removing the 15-year rule.Manifesto commitments have been included in each Conservative Party manifesto since 2015 to remove the 15-year limit on overseas voter registration. This is the so-called ‘votes for life’ policy. The Labour Party favoured maintaining the 15-year limit. The Government proposals would also allow all British citizens who had previously been resident in the UK to register, not just those who were registered before they left. Other changes are designed to make the renewal process easier for overseas voters.These changes will not take effect immediately.

Detailed secondary legislation is required to implement many aspects of the new provisions. It is expected this will be brought forward in 2023 with newly eligible overseas voters eligible to vote in 2024. The Commons Library briefing on the Bill, Elections Bill 2021-22 (CBP 9304), provides more detail of the provisions in the Bill.'
Overseas voters - House of Commons Library (parliament.uk)

Joppa is offline  
Old May 5th 2022, 10:21 pm
  #11  
Started off with nothing
 
missile's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,944
missile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by Pollyana
For some of us moving back (from wherever), this is invaluable, as it gives us the chance to get back on the Electoral Roll before we move.
Why would that be "invaluable" to you?
missile is offline  
Old May 6th 2022, 12:53 am
  #12  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
mrken30's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Location: Portlandia Metro
Posts: 7,425
mrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond reputemrken30 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by missile
Why would that be "invaluable" to you?
UK banks ask customers to prove who they are and where they live in the UK before they open a bank account. Proof of address ensures that a bank account is not opened under a false identity. Each bank accepts different documents, but in general, you will be asked to show two official documents, e.g.:
  • Utility bills
  • Local authority council tax bill for the current council tax year
  • Current UK driving license
  • Bank, Building Society or Credit Union statement
  • Mortgage statement
  • Council or housing association rent card or tenancy agreement for the current year
  • Solicitors letter within the last three month confirming the property purchase (or the land registry confirmation of address)
  • HMRC self-assessment letters
  • Electoral Register entry
  • NHS Medical card
mrken30 is offline  
Old May 6th 2022, 4:54 am
  #13  
`
 
BEVS's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 38,611
BEVS has disabled reputation
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by mrken30
UK banks ask customers to prove who they are and where they live in the UK before they open a bank account. Proof of address ensures that a bank account is not opened under a false identity. Each bank accepts different documents, but in general, you will be asked to show two official documents, e.g.:
  • Utility bills
  • Local authority council tax bill for the current council tax year
  • Current UK driving license
  • Bank, Building Society or Credit Union statement
  • Mortgage statement
  • Council or housing association rent card or tenancy agreement for the current year
  • Solicitors letter within the last three month confirming the property purchase (or the land registry confirmation of address)
  • HMRC self-assessment letters
  • Electoral Register entry
  • NHS Medical card
BEVS is offline  
Old May 6th 2022, 7:17 am
  #14  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 702
Stingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond reputeStingychips has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Lib Dems did well
Stingychips is offline  
Old May 6th 2022, 9:29 pm
  #15  
Started off with nothing
 
missile's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,944
missile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond reputemissile has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Do you want to vote in the UK?

Originally Posted by mrken30
UK banks ask customers to prove who they are and where they live in the UK before they open a bank account. Proof of address ensures that a bank account is not opened under a false identity. Each bank accepts different documents, but in general, you will be asked to show two official documents, e.g.:
  • Utility bills
  • Local authority council tax bill for the current council tax year
  • Current UK driving license
  • Bank, Building Society or Credit Union statement
  • Mortgage statement
  • Council or housing association rent card or tenancy agreement for the current year
  • Solicitors letter within the last three month confirming the property purchase (or the land registry confirmation of address)
  • HMRC self-assessment letters
  • Electoral Register entry
  • NHS Medical card

"Britons living overseas for 15 years to get right to vote in UK elections"

would not circumvent the money laundering regulations, as noted in your quote >>

"prove who they are and where they live in the UK"

Last edited by missile; May 6th 2022 at 9:58 pm.
missile is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.