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Lionda Mar 19th 2009 6:28 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by CBANDY (Post 7398297)
Hey Lin!!!!!!!! Hows it going? Long time no see.:D

Hi - I'm around....when I can get a connection that is :) I've sent you a pm

Veleta Mar 19th 2009 6:48 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by livit (Post 7397012)
When you apply for a job with the Policia National you have to complete an application form, on that application form you list your qualifications etc etc as in any post in the world.

Whilst entry into the Policia dosn`t require a degree level education, you as an immigrant would be required to provide evidence to support your application.

If you have not shown you have a high enough level of Spanish to be capable of becoming a Policia you won`t get an interview.

The Policia do carry guns and are expected to act in situations of high stress and confusion, you have to show that you can communicate in situation`s most people never face in there lives.

As for public jobs, all are advertised in the press/media whilst there may well be 2000 advertised you may well find 2000 people are applying too each post.

I'm pretty sure immigrants are not accepted into the police at all, regardless of their level of Spanish. You have to be a Spanish National and swear your allegiance to the King and whatnot.

genegenie Mar 19th 2009 7:23 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 
[QUOTE=Lionda;7398673]Hi - I'm around....when I can get a connection that is :) I've sent you a pm[/QUOTE]

You never send me one :p :p

Veleta Mar 19th 2009 7:39 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7396945)
Well about the 10 years I'm not sure, but I'm fairly certain I was told that for EU people it was less

If that's true that is good news. I've notched up 7 continuous years already (previous time living here doesn't count) so maybe I could get the ball rolling already. I kind of assumed I still had another 3 years to wait so haven't been actively pursuing this.

Fortaleza Mar 19th 2009 7:50 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Jerezgirl (Post 7398847)
If that's true that is good news. I've notched up 7 continuous years already (previous time living here doesn't count) so maybe I could get the ball rolling already. I kind of assumed I still had another 3 years to wait so haven't been actively pursuing this.

As I said, I don't know for sure but this is what I've been lead to believe. Me, I have absolutely NO intention of doing so and I've been here 12 years and two days!!!! (Arrived on St Paddys Day so it is always easy to remember!!!!)

Go to a gestor - they should have ways of finding this out, and would be cheaper than a lawyer. Or better still, phone the Emabssy in Madrid. They'll give you an answer straight away I would have thought - although they might want to know why you are turning to the other side!!!!!

Veleta Mar 19th 2009 8:02 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7398882)
As I said, I don't know for sure but this is what I've been lead to believe. Me, I have absolutely NO intention of doing so and I've been here 12 years and two days!!!! (Arrived on St Paddys Day so it is always easy to remember!!!!)

Go to a gestor - they should have ways of finding this out, and would be cheaper than a lawyer. Or better still, phone the Emabssy in Madrid. They'll give you an answer straight away I would have thought - although they might want to know why you are turning to the other side!!!!!

I must admit I hadn't even contemplated going to a gestor or lawyer....I'm more of a DIY kind of girl. :p Google is your friend as we hear time and time again!

Fortaleza Mar 19th 2009 8:08 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Jerezgirl (Post 7398905)
I must admit I hadn't even contemplated going to a gestor or lawyer....I'm more of a DIY kind of girl. :p Google is your friend as we hear time and time again!


Now you're just flirting!!!! You tease!!!!

Veleta Mar 19th 2009 8:23 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7398920)
Now you're just flirting!!!! You tease!!!!

Who says I'm teasing?


Anyway, back on track.....

Artículo 22
1. Para la concesión de la nacionalidad por residencia se requiere que ésta haya durado diez años. Serán suficientes cinco años para los que hayan obtenido la condición de refugiado y dos años cuando se trate de nacionales de origen de países iberoamericanos, Andorra, Filipinas, Guinea Ecuatorial o Portugal o de sefardíes.
2. Bastará el tiempo de residencia de un año para:
a) El que haya nacido en territorio español.
b) El que no haya ejercitado oportunamente la facultad de optar.
c) El que haya estado sujeto legalmente a la tutela, guarda o acogimiento de un ciudadano o institución españoles durante dos años consecutivos, incluso si continuare en esta situación en el momento de la solicitud.
d) El que al tiempo de la solicitud llevare un año casado con español o española y no estuviere separado legalmente o de hecho.



In summary:
10 years for most people
5 years if you are a refugee
2 years if you are Iberoamerican, Andorran, Filipino, Guinea Equatorian (this is really testing my UK vocab!), Portuguese or something called Sefardíes.
One year if you were born here or have been married to a Spaniard for at least a year (plus a few others which I can't be bothered to mention).

Fortaleza Mar 19th 2009 8:41 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Jerezgirl (Post 7398963)
Who says I'm teasing?


Anyway, back on track.....

Artículo 22
1. Para la concesión de la nacionalidad por residencia se requiere que ésta haya durado diez años. Serán suficientes cinco años para los que hayan obtenido la condición de refugiado y dos años cuando se trate de nacionales de origen de países iberoamericanos, Andorra, Filipinas, Guinea Ecuatorial o Portugal o de sefardíes.
2. Bastará el tiempo de residencia de un año para:
a) El que haya nacido en territorio español.
b) El que no haya ejercitado oportunamente la facultad de optar.
c) El que haya estado sujeto legalmente a la tutela, guarda o acogimiento de un ciudadano o institución españoles durante dos años consecutivos, incluso si continuare en esta situación en el momento de la solicitud.
d) El que al tiempo de la solicitud llevare un año casado con español o española y no estuviere separado legalmente o de hecho.



In summary:
10 years for most people
5 years if you are a refugee
2 years if you are Iberoamerican, Andorran, Filipino, Guinea Equatorian (this is really testing my UK vocab!), Portuguese or something called Sefardíes.
One year if you were born here or have been married to a Spaniard for at least a year (plus a few others which I can't be bothered to mention).

Sefardi are the Jewish Spaniards who left in the 15th century - and their language is pretty close to the Spanish of said time. They are always allowed back as special cases.

As I said - it was something I was told not concrete about. Still, wouldn't do it though!!!

Veleta Mar 19th 2009 8:54 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 7399026)
Sefardi are the Jewish Spaniards who left in the 15th century - and their language is pretty close to the Spanish of said time. They are always allowed back as special cases.

As I said - it was something I was told not concrete about. Still, wouldn't do it though!!!

Thanks for clarifying that. Did you already know this or did Google help? (be honest now).

Fortaleza Mar 19th 2009 8:59 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 
No, no. I knew it. Granted I only discovered this info about 9 years ago as part of a class I was teaching at the time, but no google - otherwise I could have given you more concrete dates and exact info as to where they went etc.... Wiki it as it is an interesting part of Spanish history

livit Mar 19th 2009 10:16 pm

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Jerezgirl (Post 7398733)
You have to be a Spanish National and swear your allegiance to the King and whatnot.

We established that fact some pages back when the poster stated that was his intention.:rofl:

livit Mar 19th 2009 10:17 pm

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 7398263)
So you learned Spanish overnight then did you :confused: clever you :thumbsup: Unfortunately most people take a little longer to learn a foreign language, and whilst learning the language and living amongst the people it would be a nice gesture to put important notices in English as most foreigners speak English and in this case - the poisoning of animals - I would have thought it to be the least they could do.

Not over night no.

It took a time.

But I`m thankful nobody helped me on my way, as it would have taken much longer.

livit Mar 19th 2009 10:19 pm

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 7398333)
Come on, even the Welsh have got there own S S translation.

Only in Wales though.

I`ve never been through England and noticed Welsh, Spanish,Italian etc etc
signs, they`ve always been in English.

jdr Mar 20th 2009 1:20 am

Re: Do the Spanish Hate the British.
 

Originally Posted by livit (Post 7400632)
Only in Wales though.

I`ve never been through England and noticed Welsh, Spanish,Italian etc etc
signs, they`ve always been in English.

Click on the strange word Cymraeg HERE on the DWP site


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