Diet in Spain

Old Feb 13th 2011, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by bil
Fair enough, all that is correct, but what's 100 or even 200 calories? A tenth of your intake?

That would mean that with all your walking, you would only be able to get away with eating four and a quarter cheese sandwiches a day.

It hunger proofs you for 1/2 an hour? Well, just another 15 or so hours left till bedtime......
Sure, but every little helps

I sometimes go for an hours run and my GPS watch tells me I've burnt 750 calories, so I think, oh good I can have two dinners And when I play a football match I burn around the same amount plus I havent eaten for half a day.

Rafa Nadal says that during a tennis tournament he needs to take in 4000 calories a day which is quite an effort and normally means he has to eat huge bowls of pasta in the evening

Sport is healthy and great fun and for me it is as important to encourage children to do as reading, learning an instrument or another language. It can really help people enjoy their lives and be in control of their bodies.
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Old Feb 13th 2011, 9:42 pm
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I walk half-an hour with the dog each morning at the crack of dawn. It makes me hungry. I try to be sensible and have two boiled eggs on toast when I get back, unless the frying pan slips into my hand, as it frequently does.

I have another half-an-hour walk in the evening, which makes me even more hungry. The remains of the chicken and healthy vegetables are cooking as I write, and I’m looking forward to a Mars bar for afters.

The only time I lose weight easily is when my life gets stressful, when unexpected sadness impinges on it, it has today from an unexpected quarter, and I’m ****ing gutted.
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The only time I lose weight easily is when my life gets stressful, when unexpected sadness impinges on it, it has today from an unexpected quarter, and I’m ****ing gutted.
Sorry to hear that HBG
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Old Feb 13th 2011, 9:53 pm
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Sure, but every little helps

I sometimes go for an hours run and my GPS watch tells me I've burnt 750 calories, so I think, oh good I can have two dinners And when I play a football match I burn around the same amount plus I havent eaten for half a day.

Rafa Nadal says that during a tennis tournament he needs to take in 4000 calories a day which is quite an effort and normally means he has to eat huge bowls of pasta in the evening

Sport is healthy and great fun and for me it is as important to encourage children to do as reading, learning an instrument or another language. It can really help people enjoy their lives and be in control of their bodies.
That's great. Work as hard as Nadal, and you too can burn off 4,000 calories. I doubt many will realistically want, or be able to do that. Do I want to work that hard at exercising? Nope. I have other things I'd rather do.

An effort to consume 4,000 calories? When a McWhopper is over 2K on its own? I really can't see it, I'm afraid. Mind you, I'd gag my guts up in record time on pasta.
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That's great. Work as hard as Nadal, and you too can burn off 4,000 calories. I doubt many will realistically want, or be able to do that. Do I want to work that hard at exercising? Nope. I have other things I'd rather do.

An effort to consume 4,000 calories? When a McWhopper is over 2K on its own? I really can't see it, I'm afraid. Mind you, I'd gag my guts up in record time on pasta.
Of course people make their own choices in life, but their is no point complaining when all people need to do to lose weight is go for a walk!

A Big Mac has 600 calories so a McWopper must be some burger!
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Of course people make their own choices in life, but their is no point complaining when all people need to do to lose weight is go for a walk!

A Big Mac has 600 calories so a McWopper must be some burger!
Supersize me. Hi cal foods are worryingly easy to eat.

It is not enough just to go for a walk to lose weight. To lose weight with just a walk, you need to be eating the basic calorie ration, eg 2K cals to start with, and that's a SMALL amount of food to start with. Think 4 quite small cheese sandwiches.

Then go for a long walk, and you will maybe burn 150 calories. Let's do it twice a day, and burn 300, OK? if you do that, then in two weeks you will lose a pound of weight (approx) That's maybe two stone in a year, a whole year in which you have little if any pleasure in your food.

Unless you are a masochist.
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The more of these posts I read, the more depressed I get.
The more depressed I get the more I eat.
Reading about all the things I can't eat makes me hungrier still.
I'm convinced I put on weight even just thinking about food.
May as well just go back onto my seafood diet,
...or better still my seefood diet.
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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
The more of these posts I read, the more depressed I get.
The more depressed I get the more I eat.
Reading about all the things I can't eat makes me hungrier still.
I'm convinced I put on weight even just thinking about food.
May as well just go back onto my seafood diet,
...or better still my seefood diet.
Bummer, innit?
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Spanish black pudding and ketchup

Totally agree on the age thing - I'm going to die happy and a bit before I should.
I seriously doubt whether anyone who develops Type 2 diabetes (being overweight and physically inactive being the biggest risk factors) will die happy - my Dad ended up having a stroke, 3 amputation operations and finally developing pneumonia after spending 6 months in a hospital bed before he died. I know everybody has to die of something, but not like that, if I can help it.

Is it really worth the risk to be able to carry on eating fry-ups?
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I seriously doubt whether anyone who develops Type 2 diabetes (being overweight and physically inactive being the biggest risk factors) will die happy - my Dad ended up having a stroke, 3 amputation operations and finally developing pneumonia after spending 6 months in a hospital bed before he died. I know everybody has to die of something, but not like that, if I can help it.

Is it really worth the risk to be able to carry on eating fry-ups?
Having fryups, or indeed simply eating to excess to the extent of developing type 2 is bad, but at that point, isn't Type 2 controllable thru diet? I've known people with type 2 who simply rejected every dietary item containing refined or graminiferous carbs. They were slim and healthy.
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Sometimes Type 2 is controllable by diet, sometimes not. Some people are put on medication, but my Dad eventually needed insulin injections.

He did modify his lifestyle after he was diagnosed at about the same age I am now, eg he never touched another drop of alcohol and did make some changes to his diet but, IMO, not enough. He did control his blood sugar levels pretty well for over 20 years after he was diagnosed, but what happened to him in the end was horrible, and he had lots of problems with his feet and needing laser treatment for diabetic retinopathy as well. He was certainly slim, always had been, so being overweight wasn't a factor in his case.

Apparently my risk factor for developing Type 2 is increased by 40% by having a parent who had it, so I intend to do everything I can to avoid it!
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Sometimes Type 2 is controllable by diet, sometimes not. Some people are put on medication, but my Dad eventually needed insulin injections.

He did modify his lifestyle after he was diagnosed at about the same age I am now, eg he never touched another drop of alcohol and did make some changes to his diet but, IMO, not enough. He did control his blood sugar levels pretty well for over 20 years after he was diagnosed, but what happened to him in the end was horrible, and he had lots of problems with his feet and needing laser treatment for diabetic retinopathy as well. He was certainly slim, always had been, so being overweight wasn't a factor in his case.

Apparently my risk factor for developing Type 2 is increased by 40% by having a parent who had it, so I intend to do everything I can to avoid it!
They do say that most diabetics are diagnosed by chiropodists.
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They do say that most diabetics are diagnosed by chiropodists.

Dont think so.
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Dont think so.
No. You just don't think.
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No. You just don't think.
Heh! What's the problem wit all you guys?

Surely when in Spain you should be able to get your hands on a year round healthy diet .....to accompany the olive oil and add some outdoors stuff in moderation (Mediterranean diet even round in the Cadiz area) No?

Here in St Lucia we have the highest incidence of diabetes on the planet just about (aside from the Mende tribe)

Put it all down to too many sweet things plus a diet of chicken backs (pure fat) and grilled local pork (loads of fat - "the best bit") with no green veg plus the hereditary bit.
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