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Old Oct 15th 2013, 1:18 pm
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The Andalucian Government has demolished two more British owned houses in Cantoria, Almería this week in a further effort to impoverish the province. Do they really believe that Northern Europeans are going to continue to 'take their chances' here? There are an estimated 13,000 homes in the province described as 'illegal' by the ecologists: almost all belonging to Britons. Many have no water or electricity and all are, in a word, 'valueless'.
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What a terrible thing to happen to people who are mainly in the later stage of life and moved for the "laid back lifestyle"
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It is terrible for them. I see the promoter was ordered to compensate the buyers but hasn't done so.
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Shocking.

Their bulldozers would be better employed flattening the abomination of most of the coastal developments.

The unemployed could then go to work rebuilding them in a much more tasteful manner a more respectful distance from the coastline.
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Or... they could demolish some of the 2,500,000 empty homes owned by our friends the banks. Or... are they all 'legal'?
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Or... they could demolish some of the 2,500,000 empty homes owned by our friends the banks. Or... are they all 'legal'?
Interestingly, did the banks give mortgages to people who bought these "illegal" properties or have they all been bought with cash?

You would have thought that the status of the land would have been brought up at the survey stage - which is needed to get a mortgage
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Most people who bought would be retirees...are they people who take out mortgages
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Most people who bought would be retirees...are they people who take out mortgages
And the sad part about them being retirees, is that time is against them, they have not got the time to pick themselves up after a low blow like that.
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It is terrible for them. I see the promoter was ordered to compensate the buyers but hasn't done so.
but its so easy............
to go bankrupt............
and not pay a penny
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Originally Posted by Lenox
The Andalucian Government has demolished two more British owned houses in Cantoria, Almería this week in a further effort to impoverish the province. Do they really believe that Northern Europeans are going to continue to 'take their chances' here? There are an estimated 13,000 homes in the province described as 'illegal' by the ecologists: almost all belonging to Britons. Many have no water or electricity and all are, in a word, 'valueless'.
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no matter how much the BH liked the house near Albox, when we found out it was on rustico/agrario and not urbano we dropped it like a hot coal.
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The problem is that by and large the British are a trusting lot. They have been brought up to believe the old fashioned dogma about 'a man being as good as his word'.
They were taught to respect people that occupied important positions, they didn't question a doctors diagnosis or remedy, they didn't back-chat a Police Officer, they were subservient to Bank Managers, Factory Bosses, Office Managers et al.
They expected the same values to apply in the great social project that is Europe.

By any measure they were naïve. They believed the Notary, the Abogado, the Estate Agent, the Town Hall official and in some cases the Mayor.

And where did it get them?

If naivety is a crime then they are guilty. It's certainly no defence. But if they are guilty then where does it leave the army of 'Professionals' who advised them.

Cricketman, you can pose a smart arse question about mortgages and no doubt many others from the comfort of your in the know Spanish family. Smug is how you come across intentionally or not.

These people, so badly affected bought in good faith. They trusted people. They paid good money for the advice and reassurances they received and did no more than look forward to their retirement.

All the latest demolitions has proved is that Spain is and for the foreseeable future will continue to be as corrupt from the lowliest funcionario to the Prime Minister as any third world tin pot dictatorship.
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The problem is that by and large the British are a trusting lot. They have been brought up to believe the old fashioned dogma about 'a man being as good as his word'.
They were taught to respect people that occupied important positions, they didn't question a doctors diagnosis or remedy, they didn't back-chat a Police Officer, they were subservient to Bank Managers, Factory Bosses, Office Managers et al.
They expected the same values to apply in the great social project that is Europe.

By any measure they were naïve. They believed the Notary, the Abogado, the Estate Agent, the Town Hall official and in some cases the Mayor.

And where did it get them?

If naivety is a crime then they are guilty. It's certainly no defence. But if they are guilty then where does it leave the army of 'Professionals' who advised them.

Cricketman, you can pose a smart arse question about mortgages and no doubt many others from the comfort of your in the know Spanish family. Smug is how you come across intentionally or not.

These people, so badly affected bought in good faith. They trusted people. They paid good money for the advice and reassurances they received and did no more than look forward to their retirement.

All the latest demolitions has proved is that Spain is and for the foreseeable future will continue to be as corrupt from the lowliest funcionario to the Prime Minister as any third world tin pot dictatorship.
Yes you are right !
I see it no different as someone walking into a main agent dealership to buy a car, knowing that the place is staffed by proffesionals who are paid to make sure your purchase is all good.
It turns out that the head office down to the salesperson all knew & took an active role in dupping the buying public.
You later find out that the car & many others they have sold were ringers & you also then find out that it's the buyers who bear the ultimate responsibility as they watch the vehicle being crushed.

As Lenox has said just how stupid to allow this injustice to take place in front of the worlds media.
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Originally Posted by stuboy

Cricketman, you can pose a smart arse question about mortgages and no doubt many others from the comfort of your in the know Spanish family. Smug is how you come across intentionally or not.

These people, so badly affected bought in good faith. They trusted people. They paid good money for the advice and reassurances they received and did no more than look forward to their retirement.

All the latest demolitions has proved is that Spain is and for the foreseeable future will continue to be as corrupt from the lowliest funcionario to the Prime Minister as any third world tin pot dictatorship.
It was an honest question

And through your last quote you are just been ridiculous. Insulting everybody in Spain does not solve anything. If you think that about the people of the country you live in then maybe you should move somewhere else. Your bad attitude will stink a mile away
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Originally Posted by stuboy
The problem is that by and large the British are a trusting lot. They have been brought up to believe the old fashioned dogma about 'a man being as good as his word'.
They were taught to respect people that occupied important positions, they didn't question a doctors diagnosis or remedy, they didn't back-chat a Police Officer, they were subservient to Bank Managers, Factory Bosses, Office Managers et al.
They expected the same values to apply in the great social project that is Europe.

By any measure they were naïve. They believed the Notary, the Abogado, the Estate Agent, the Town Hall official and in some cases the Mayor.

And where did it get them?

If naivety is a crime then they are guilty. It's certainly no defence. But if they are guilty then where does it leave the army of 'Professionals' who advised them.

Cricketman, you can pose a smart arse question about mortgages and no doubt many others from the comfort of your in the know Spanish family. Smug is how you come across intentionally or not.

These people, so badly affected bought in good faith. They trusted people. They paid good money for the advice and reassurances they received and did no more than look forward to their retirement.

All the latest demolitions has proved is that Spain is and for the foreseeable future will continue to be as corrupt from the lowliest funcionario to the Prime Minister as any third world tin pot dictatorship.

Stuboy,

Yes we are guilty as charged, we trusted the professionals who we should have been able to trust. We were lied to by the lawyer, the estate agent, the bank manager, the bank manager´s surveyor and then there was the notary who turned a blind eye.
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Stuboy,

Yes we are guilty as charged, we trusted the professionals who we should have been able to trust. We were lied to by the lawyer, the estate agent, the bank manager, the bank manager´s surveyor and then there was the notary who turned a blind eye.
I agree with you and Stuboy, it is a disgrace.

It is nice to see such solidarity on here though isn´t it? (not)
Some posters take such delight in putting the boot in when other expats get shortchanged in Spain.

It probably makes them feel superior to be in a "better place" than their more unfortunate countrymen.

But all the mud slingers who say it is your own fault, miss the obvious question, "Where did the professionals you hired leave their moral, pride in their work and honesty when the sale was going through.
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