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angiescarr Oct 1st 2012 8:03 pm

Definitive toll charge answer please
 
Hi all.
A little help please.
:unsure:
Tomorrow my husband is going to pick up my son at Faro airport and we're totally confused about how to pay the Toll.

Before saying anything else we don't have a credit card (only Electron) and are not prepared to give the toll authorities our bank details for them to 'dip their hands' into our nearly empty wallet whenever they please 'by mistake'. However we are quite happy(ish) to pay the tolls!

1) Which is the best method to pay for a single go and return journey to Faro Airport
2) How much does it cost
3) Which lane does he choose

I only want answers from those who have successfully done it please as there are several discussions about it on other threads. Plus we've asked loads of friends both in Spain and portugal and no-one really seems to know.
There seems to be a top up card available but there's no time to get it through the post. If it's *really* available at outlets en route (& you know by experience) please let us know that too. My husbands journey will be fairly late in the day.

chrismortley Oct 1st 2012 10:29 pm

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Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 10309422)
Hi all.
A little help please.
:unsure:
Tomorrow my husband is going to pick up my son at Faro airport and we're totally confused about how to pay the Toll.

Before saying anything else we don't have a credit card (only Electron) and are not prepared to give the toll authorities our bank details for them to 'dip their hands' into our nearly empty wallet whenever they please 'by mistake'. However we are quite happy(ish) to pay the tolls!

1) Which is the best method to pay for a single go and return journey to Faro Airport
2) How much does it cost
3) Which lane does he choose

I only want answers from those who have successfully done it please as there are several discussions about it on other threads. Plus we've asked loads of friends both in Spain and portugal and no-one really seems to know.
There seems to be a top up card available but there's no time to get it through the post. If it's *really* available at outlets en route (& you know by experience) please let us know that too. My husbands journey will be fairly late in the day.

What company are you using ? Travel rent now have transponders in their cars . It's 20 euros for the hire but they give you 20 euros credit & any adjustment is calculated on return of the vehicle. I don't imagine for one second that includes any refund I forgot to ask

Lloyd2012 Oct 2nd 2012 12:42 am

Re: Definitive toll charge answer please
 
If ur car is from a spanish provider don't bother Paying, portugeese can't trace the spanish reg hence that's why they now have signage to lure motorists coming from the Spanish side to register.

angiescarr Oct 2nd 2012 1:03 am

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Originally Posted by Lloyd2012 (Post 10309789)
If ur car is from a spanish provider don't bother Paying, portugeese can't trace the spanish reg hence that's why they now have signage to lure motorists coming from the Spanish side to register.

We have a Spanish registered car. Our own.
Which line should we take at the toll booths for the least fuss.
As I say, Don't mind paying but dammit. If they can't make it possible for us by tomorrow ....Sod 'em!

olivia Oct 2nd 2012 1:20 am

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Originally Posted by Lloyd2012 (Post 10309789)
If ur car is from a spanish provider don't bother Paying, portugeese can't trace the spanish reg hence that's why they now have signage to lure motorists coming from the Spanish side to register.

During the summer they had people at service stations [like time share sellers] signing foreign reg vehicles up for 30 days stay.
We drove through Portugal June/July UK reg vehicle. We were camping and chose non toll on our sat nav. On one journey we were certainly on a newly tolled road. We couldn't find a place to pay and were in Spain again before we even saw a service station to try and pay. Fellow more experienced campers from Northern European countries say exactly as above post. They were also advising....If you are asked at a service station to enter your details. Tell them you only have cash and offer to pay!! they can't accept cash and have to let you go.
What a rubbish system! Keep your Sat Nav up to date and stay off Toll Roads in Portugal until they start to value their tourism again and make paying more user friendly.

sunshine sue Oct 2nd 2012 1:22 am

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re tolls. all booths near the bridge use cards not cash.
you can pay cash at the services at Olhao but only once per week.
You can pay cash at the post office in Vila Real de Santo Antonio.
otherwise just come off motorway at Montegordo and stay on en 125 all way to faro no cost.

MikeJ Oct 2nd 2012 7:01 am

Re: Definitive toll charge answer please
 

Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 10309422)
Hi all.
A little help please.
:unsure:
Tomorrow my husband is going to pick up my son at Faro airport and we're totally confused about how to pay the Toll.

Before saying anything else we don't have a credit card (only Electron) and are not prepared to give the toll authorities our bank details for them to 'dip their hands' into our nearly empty wallet whenever they please 'by mistake'. However we are quite happy(ish) to pay the tolls!

1) Which is the best method to pay for a single go and return journey to Faro Airport
2) How much does it cost
3) Which lane does he choose

I only want answers from those who have successfully done it please as there are several discussions about it on other threads. Plus we've asked loads of friends both in Spain and portugal and no-one really seems to know.
There seems to be a top up card available but there's no time to get it through the post. If it's *really* available at outlets en route (& you know by experience) please let us know that too. My husbands journey will be fairly late in the day.

For a single Faro return trip in a Spanish reg car then you can purchase a single return ticket in the machine at the VRSA border layby. Take the right hand lane and park up (the other lanes are for the Easy Toll registration which you have indicated you don't want). I believe the return fare is around 9,60 ish.

bxpuser24710519 Oct 2nd 2012 7:03 am

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The 125 is chock a block with slow moving traffic somedays so need to allow lots more time. The condition of road is getting worse with the volumne of traffic now using it.

I am told the Spanish will not help the Portuguese find and bill anyone not paying. Many Spanish reg cars simply don't/won't pay.

EsuriJohn Oct 2nd 2012 7:18 am

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Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 10310261)
For a single Faro return trip in a Spanish reg car then you can purchase a single return ticket in the machine at the VRSA border layby. Take the right hand lane and park up (the other lanes are for the Easy Toll registration which you have indicated you don't want). I believe the return fare is around 9,60 ish.

The machine that issues the ticket is in what looks like a bus shelter and is quite sophisticated but from memory it may be card only. Then I did not try cash so it may be possible. Costs about E12 for one return trip to Faro from the border.

MikeJ Oct 2nd 2012 6:23 pm

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Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench (Post 10310263)
The 125 is chock a block with slow moving traffic somedays so need to allow lots more time. The condition of road is getting worse with the volumne of traffic now using it.

I am told the Spanish will not help the Portuguese find and bill anyone not paying. Many Spanish reg cars simply don't/won't pay.

I think it is very bad advice to encourage people to break the law on the basis of rumour. The system has not been working long enough to understand if people have got away with it.
I was fined (in Italy) nearly 14 months after my offence - and I was tracked down to the UK. I had followed advice on a web forum (not BE I hasten to add) to ignore it as the Italians would never catch up with me! It cost me nearly 800euros in the end. There are more and more EU intercooperation directives on fines and penalties. If someone chooses to break the law then let them do that in the full knowledge of what they are doing and the consequences, not on the basis of rumour.
Sorry to sound a bit pious but it happened to me and I was not a happy bunny.

angiescarr Oct 2nd 2012 6:48 pm

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Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 10310860)
I think it is very bad advice to encourage people to break the law on the basis of rumour. The system has not been working long enough to understand if people have got away with it.
I was fined (in Italy) nearly 14 months after my offence - and I was tracked down to the UK. I had followed advice on a web forum (not BE I hasten to add) to ignore it as the Italians would never catch up with me! It cost me nearly 800euros in the end. There are more and more EU intercooperation directives on fines and penalties. If someone chooses to break the law then let them do that in the full knowledge of what they are doing and the consequences, not on the basis of rumour.
Sorry to sound a bit pious but it happened to me and I was not a happy bunny.

Good advice Mike. A bit more piety wouldn't go amiss in this world. Religion you can keep but morality is a good currency!

angiescarr Oct 2nd 2012 6:53 pm

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Originally Posted by sunshine sue (Post 10309859)
re tolls. all booths near the bridge use cards not cash.
you can pay cash at the services at Olhao but only once per week.
You can pay cash at the post office in Vila Real de Santo Antonio.
otherwise just come off motorway at Montegordo and stay on en 125 all way to faro no cost.

I don't understand this once a week thing. When you're taking a trip from somewhere nowhere near the border what use is that!
Looks like just coming off the motorway might be the best plan. :-(

Do the tolls have to be paid upfront though. Or can we get a Portugese friend to go into the post office and pay afterwards using our number plate as reference?

bxpuser24710519 Oct 2nd 2012 7:28 pm

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Originally Posted by MikeJ (Post 10310860)
I think it is very bad advice to encourage people to break the law on the basis of rumour. The system has not been working long enough to understand if people have got away with it.
I was fined (in Italy) nearly 14 months after my offence - and I was tracked down to the UK. I had followed advice on a web forum (not BE I hasten to add) to ignore it as the Italians would never catch up with me! It cost me nearly 800euros in the end. There are more and more EU intercooperation directives on fines and penalties. If someone chooses to break the law then let them do that in the full knowledge of what they are doing and the consequences, not on the basis of rumour.
Sorry to sound a bit pious but it happened to me and I was not a happy bunny.

Exactly where did I advise anyone not to pay ? where did I encourage anyone not to pay ? All I did was state what I have been told re the Spanish government saying they would not help the Portuguese to find anyone who had not paid and that many Spanish people or people in spanish reg. cars don't/won't pay.

I have paid at the garage 10.62 for trip to airport and back the same day. He told me that you could not pay again for 8 days and after 10 days you could use a Portuguese post office or the other way round I did not quite catch in the mix of 3 three languages. He also mentioned something about the system remembering your car reg for the 8 days I think. So basically my info in pretty useless which is why I stuck to what I said in org post.

angiescarr Oct 2nd 2012 8:35 pm

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Originally Posted by The Capitans Wench (Post 10310928)
Exactly where did I advise anyone not to pay ? where did I encourage anyone not to pay ? All I did was state what I have been told re the Spanish government saying they would not help the Portuguese to find anyone who had not paid and that many Spanish people or people in spanish reg. cars don't/won't pay.

I have paid at the garage 10.62 for trip to airport and back the same day. He told me that you got not pay again for 8 days and after 10 days you could use a Portuguese post office or the other way round I did not quite catch in the mix of 3 three languages. He also mentioned something about the system remembering your car reg for the 8 days I think. So basically my info in pretty useless which is why I stuck to what I said in org post.

Don't worry. I don't think anyone is having a go at you. I agree that they make it so difficult that we prob won't be able to find a way to pay and my husband will have to try to find his way onto the other road.
It's not going to be on Tom Tom yet so he'll have to do the old fashioned 'looking for the turn off!!' :D
If he misses it and there's no understandable remedy, we may just be stuck with not paying and that's that!

bxpuser24710519 Oct 2nd 2012 8:49 pm

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It would not worry me, it did annoy me.


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