Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
#1096
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
If you "wait and see" i.e. dont declare your overseas assets to hacienda - and then they catch you, then they can fine you 10,000 euros and take up to 100% of the asset
Again my sister-in-law says that with the new exchange of information laws then all hacienda will need to do is type in your NIE or passport number to see all bank accounts and assets that you hold across the world
Again my sister-in-law says that with the new exchange of information laws then all hacienda will need to do is type in your NIE or passport number to see all bank accounts and assets that you hold across the world
they would have to go through a court process, and imagine the uproar if the local MP in the UK did not help his constituent.
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
I know of a few people who have declared their properties and in one case bank accounts too, they went to get their residency recinded a couple of weeks ago.
One couple have been in the UK on and off since the new they year, and are buying a house in the UK to live in before the summer.
They know that they have done the declaration 2012, but they are sure they will not have to make a residents declaration for the year ending 2013, which I presume is right.
So their new property will not have to be declared anyway.
As they are both of a certain age, they see it as the best way forward for them.
One couple have been in the UK on and off since the new they year, and are buying a house in the UK to live in before the summer.
They know that they have done the declaration 2012, but they are sure they will not have to make a residents declaration for the year ending 2013, which I presume is right.
So their new property will not have to be declared anyway.
As they are both of a certain age, they see it as the best way forward for them.
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It would be very interesting to see how the Spanish government could actually take away a house in the UK to pay a fine for none declaration of the asset.
they would have to go through a court process, and imagine the uproar if the local MP in the UK did not help his constituent.
they would have to go through a court process, and imagine the uproar if the local MP in the UK did not help his constituent.
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I am sure that if someone who was being threatened by having their UK property confiscated by Hacienda, they would take every step to drop their Spanish residency and get back to the UK sharpish. They would not hang around and watch the proceedings from afar.
I know I would, I would be drumming up a huge stonking protest group, and with the feelings of the British public that are against the EU (running higher every week)and its rules, there would be no shortage of protesters against the measure taken by hacienda.
It is one thing to knock down what is classed as an illegal build in Spain, as in the case of the Priors, but quite another when the asset is on British soil.
I know I would, I would be drumming up a huge stonking protest group, and with the feelings of the British public that are against the EU (running higher every week)and its rules, there would be no shortage of protesters against the measure taken by hacienda.
It is one thing to knock down what is classed as an illegal build in Spain, as in the case of the Priors, but quite another when the asset is on British soil.
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
I know of a few people who have declared their properties and in one case bank accounts too, they went to get their residency recinded a couple of weeks ago.
One couple have been in the UK on and off since the new they year, and are buying a house in the UK to live in before the summer.
They know that they have done the declaration 2012, but they are sure they will not have to make a residents declaration for the year ending 2013, which I presume is right.
So their new property will not have to be declared anyway.
As they are both of a certain age, they see it as the best way forward for them.
One couple have been in the UK on and off since the new they year, and are buying a house in the UK to live in before the summer.
They know that they have done the declaration 2012, but they are sure they will not have to make a residents declaration for the year ending 2013, which I presume is right.
So their new property will not have to be declared anyway.
As they are both of a certain age, they see it as the best way forward for them.
It will be pretty difficult to get money out of accounts declared on the 720 that are subsequently closed and monies spent on an offsprings wedding, uni fees or new car for an 18 or 21st birthday.
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On a side note, it's interesting to note just how many people this thread has attracted in 3 months.
Not only posters, but most especially viewings.
I reckon there must be a hell of a lot of very worried people out there !!!
Not only posters, but most especially viewings.
I reckon there must be a hell of a lot of very worried people out there !!!
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
At least the thread is acting as a good information source with a bit of debate thrown in for good measure.
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
Or maybe not worried at all, just taken the information they needed to know and decided what is the best course of action for their own individual circumstances and acted accordingly, without plastering their business all over t'intenet.
At least the thread is acting as a good information source with a bit of debate thrown in for good measure.
At least the thread is acting as a good information source with a bit of debate thrown in for good measure.
Some see it as an on going re-adjustment.
Taking it step by step and doing each bit as and when possible.
a lot of people are not prepared to roll into a ball and wait for the storm to hit
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
If you "wait and see" i.e. dont declare your overseas assets to hacienda - and then they catch you, then they can fine you 10,000 euros and take up to 100% of the asset
Again my sister-in-law says that with the new exchange of information laws then all hacienda will need to do is type in your NIE or passport number to see all bank accounts and assets that you hold across the world
Again my sister-in-law says that with the new exchange of information laws then all hacienda will need to do is type in your NIE or passport number to see all bank accounts and assets that you hold across the world
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Something of an understatement I think as far as many others are concerned.
I certainly didn't come down here with the intention of spending half my life filling forms in then wondering or worrying if I got it right.
I hoped I'd left excessive bureaucracy behind in the UK.
I certainly didn't come down here with the intention of spending half my life filling forms in then wondering or worrying if I got it right.
I hoped I'd left excessive bureaucracy behind in the UK.
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
I know of a few people who have declared their properties and in one case bank accounts too, they went to get their residency recinded a couple of weeks ago.
One couple have been in the UK on and off since the new they year, and are buying a house in the UK to live in before the summer.
They know that they have done the declaration 2012, but they are sure they will not have to make a residents declaration for the year ending 2013, which I presume is right.
So their new property will not have to be declared anyway.
As they are both of a certain age, they see it as the best way forward for them.
One couple have been in the UK on and off since the new they year, and are buying a house in the UK to live in before the summer.
They know that they have done the declaration 2012, but they are sure they will not have to make a residents declaration for the year ending 2013, which I presume is right.
So their new property will not have to be declared anyway.
As they are both of a certain age, they see it as the best way forward for them.
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Re: Declaring worldwide assets to Hacienda
Me too hence staying non resident until the dust settles I will also re looking at our wills and their wording to prevent possibility of paying inheritance tax in Spain on our UK property.