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Jon-Bxl May 6th 2021 12:04 pm

Re: Coviran Supermarket in CE ?
 
Fantastic, this is better than I expected!

Great photos (+great to see that you are still up to date!)

A much needed addition to CE.... Finally!

Good news :thumbsup:

Jon

MikeCol May 6th 2021 2:42 pm

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TBH Jon, even though we no longer have a home there, we look at this site (& others) everyday to keep ourselves up to date with new developments. We also will be coming back for visits, from time to time, as it is somewhere we still love & have lots of lovely memories & friends from our time living on Marina Esuri ❤

keithBT May 6th 2021 8:14 pm

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TO Dellaph Kite. You mentioned Behan's unable to proceed due to problems with the illegal bar below. I guess you mean the bread shop/ minimarket run by the former Holeo 19 couple - forget their name, its been so long. For my curiosity can you enlarge on why an illegal bar below would have any effect on a legal registered bistro upstairs as was planned for Behan's ????? I fail to see what difference it would make ! Thanks... Keith

EsuriJohn May 6th 2021 10:06 pm

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Originally Posted by keithBT (Post 13003253)
TO Dellaph Kite. You mentioned Behan's unable to proceed due to problems with the illegal bar below. I guess you mean the bread shop/ minimarket run by the former Holeo 19 couple - forget their name, its been so long. For my curiosity can you enlarge on why an illegal bar below would have any effect on a legal registered bistro upstairs as was planned for Behan's ????? I fail to see what difference it would make ! Thanks... Keith

You will all recall the very ugly large diameter corrugated chimney that was erected at jags bar to comply with food health regulations in the kitchen. That was removed and re-erected at the shop above the ovens it goes straight up through the ceiling of the shop which is of course the floor of Behan’s which means that a rather nice restaurant would have an ugly silver grease stained chimney in the middle.
The next problem arises with disabled access. The ramp provided by the original builder is now cut off by the totally enclosed solid roofed pergola in front of the shop. I think it may also present a problem for regular deliveries to Corvirans. Already the steps which were reinstated by the intercommunity a year or so ago are now smashed again and in my view dangerous. Today the first tree planted as part of the works last year has been hit and damaged. On the whole the frontage looks a mess.
Also immediately at the top of the disabled ramp is the unit for the community pharmacy and the whole frontage is taken up with chairs and tables now the sun is here. This will present a problem for mother’s with prams, the disabled in wheelchairs and those who use crutches to access the chemist!
As we have so often said with Esuri one step forwards and three steps back!

Jon-Bxl May 7th 2021 6:21 am

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Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 13003305)
You will all recall the very ugly large diameter corrugated chimney that was erected at jags bar to comply with food health regulations in the kitchen. That was removed and re-erected at the shop above the ovens it goes straight up through the ceiling of the shop which is of course the floor of Behan’s which means that a rather nice restaurant would have an ugly silver grease stained chimney in the middle.
The next problem arises with disabled access. The ramp provided by the original builder is now cut off by the totally enclosed solid roofed pergola in front of the shop. I think it may also present a problem for regular deliveries to Corvirans. Already the steps which were reinstated by the intercommunity a year or so ago are now smashed again and in my view dangerous. Today the first tree planted as part of the works last year has been hit and damaged. On the whole the frontage looks a mess.
Also immediately at the top of the disabled ramp is the unit for the community pharmacy and the whole frontage is taken up with chairs and tables now the sun is here. This will present a problem for mother’s with prams, the disabled in wheelchairs and those who use crutches to access the chemist!
As we have so often said with Esuri one step forwards and three steps back!

You couldn't make this up! After decades of hassles in CE, including closures of busy and active social venues, for illegal opening etc... We have this situation!

A legal venue, held back by an (openly... literally) illegal operation, using public terrace space, and even smashing up the premises above to make a hole for a chimney!! Even potentially hampering the operation of a second legal operation, a much-needed supermarket.

We are regular users of the shop which has been at times a 'welcome social-lifeline' over the years (decades even!). We believe there is room for both. Its 2 different business models.

After all the original concept of CE, that we bought into (literally ...€€) included a plethora of social/business venues, including a full size supermarket, pharmacy, EVEN burger king, bowling alley etc!

There has to be 'another reason, behind the scenes' ... Both Covirans and Behans have (it seems) a cast-iron case.... Especially as we have a clear history of denuncias happening 'succesfully' (for the complainant)!!!

After all wouldn't you take this step if you had invested huge time and expense in a new business?

Weird! The last thing we want is this to drag on and a strong 'anti-shop' feeling to arise, meaning social opportunities get worse!!!! I know that there has already been this trend developing.

Its hard to fathom!

Jon


Dellaph Kite May 7th 2021 6:28 am

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Originally Posted by EsuriJohn (Post 13003305)
You will all recall the very ugly large diameter corrugated chimney that was erected at jags bar to comply with food health regulations in the kitchen. That was removed and re-erected at the shop above the ovens it goes straight up through the ceiling of the shop which is of course the floor of Behan’s which means that a rather nice restaurant would have an ugly silver grease stained chimney in the middle.
The next problem arises with disabled access. The ramp provided by the original builder is now cut off by the totally enclosed solid roofed pergola in front of the shop. I think it may also present a problem for regular deliveries to Corvirans. Already the steps which were reinstated by the intercommunity a year or so ago are now smashed again and in my view dangerous. Today the first tree planted as part of the works last year has been hit and damaged. On the whole the frontage looks a mess.
Also immediately at the top of the disabled ramp is the unit for the community pharmacy and the whole frontage is taken up with chairs and tables now the sun is here. This will present a problem for mother’s with prams, the disabled in wheelchairs and those who use crutches to access the chemist!
As we have so often said with Esuri one step forwards and three steps back!

A full answer to Keith thank you John, would add only that the chimney going through Behan’s is (naturally) illegal, non-compliant with any fire safety regulations and has to go before any work can begin on Behan’s. Which begs the question why the authorities don't take direct action?? Hoyo 19 was mentioned, somewhere that has the support of what I would guess is the vast majority of the Esuri community yet never gets off the ground because one or two people dununciate it. All very strange....

MKABZ May 7th 2021 9:04 am

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Does anyone know what the operating days/times of Covirans will be?

Dellaph Kite May 7th 2021 9:13 am

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Originally Posted by MKABZ (Post 13003394)
Does anyone know what the operating days/times of Covirans will be?

0900 to 2100 Mon to Sat, something like 1000 to 1500 Sun I believe

MKABZ May 7th 2021 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by Dellaph Kite (Post 13003395)
0900 to 2100 Mon to Sat, something like 1000 to 1500 Sun I believe

Thanks. Good to know for getting some shopping when just arriving from the airport.
Mary.

keithBT May 7th 2021 11:49 am

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Thanks to Esuri John and Dellaph Kite for the explanation. IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN ON CE !!. Were I the owner / leesee of Behan's premises I would be putting a disc cutter through the steel chimney and sealing the floor with an inset steel plate. That Bl**dy couple at the shop would have no recourse because it was illegal and and they have no rights. That said : they obviously have some persuasion somewhere since having not made a success of Hoyo19 they sucessfully denounced the "membership club" that was to open. Surely, if the ramp to access Coviran is on the shop end of the parade, then the shop cannot block it, otherwise wheelchair and disabled buggy users are prevented from accessing the supermarket. For what its worth I reckon if a group of disabled got together outside and called the police the shop would be forced to give way. The police would have no other choice. Sounds like brown envelopes again.

Margaret and Derek May 7th 2021 4:10 pm

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Originally Posted by MKABZ (Post 13003398)
Thanks. Good to know for getting some shopping when just arriving from the airport.
Mary.

We went in today, very friendly staff, prices on a par with other supermarkets, so great when Mercadona get really busy in the Summer. We shall support them as much as we can.

MKABZ May 7th 2021 7:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Margaret and Derek (Post 13003511)
We went in today, very friendly staff, prices on a par with other supermarkets, so great when Mercadona get really busy in the Summer. We shall support them as much as we can.

Good to know they are on a par with the other supermarkets. I am more likely to shop there regularly, Mercadona can be quite manic in the summer. The little shop is far too expensive in my opinion.
Mary.

maverik May 8th 2021 11:48 am

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Here is a movie on the new Supermercato:

https://fb.watch/5m9rW2QFUB/

MKABZ May 9th 2021 8:37 am

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The supermarket is looking good. Unfortunately my (bad) level of Spanish only picked up the occasional word but the visual itself did the job.

Jon-Bxl May 9th 2021 9:13 am

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Originally Posted by maverik (Post 13003783)
Here is a movie on the new Supermercato:

https://fb.watch/5m9rW2QFUB/

Fantastic! We've agreed to even pay a few euros more to have the convenience of shopping on CE, but the prices look great.

I did smile when I saw the photos of an entire aisle selling crisps :). I hope they sell Pringles Salt + Vinegar crisps... My favourite :). I currently get them in PT at Corvo or the little Spar in M-Gordo opposite the (great) Osaka Japanese resto.

Jon


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