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EsuriJohn Apr 11th 2013 4:49 am

Re: This could change everything
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10653830)
The problem was all the other European countries got all the money, including Germany, so there was no international money left for Spain

Spain were no less deserving than the Germans or Italians, they just happened to have their war a little earlier than the others

Anyway, it is ancient history and has nothing to do with today

Or UK but we did not get any either. Our infrastructure suffered as much as any except perhaps European Russia. The railways were shot the highways were years behind W. Germany and we have just finished paying off our war debt to the good ole US of A.

chrisjolly Apr 11th 2013 9:17 am

Re: This could change everything
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10653456)
I haven't but I have work colleagues who have. They say they never want to go back because it makes you doubt your very humanity

Try reading Shantaram

I'd rather not live in a world where people have to hack off a couple of limbs in order to make a living - or where young children prostitute themselves so that they can eat.

I guess our eyes see only what we want them to see

So the answer is NO I haven't been to Mumbai

Yes I have read the novel Shantaram

and I guess you will not be moving to the UK

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2013/m...trafficking-uk

me me Apr 11th 2013 7:00 pm

Re: This could change everything
 
I find the post on this thread amazing, without putting too fine a point on it, we seem to have had a complete change of opinion from one source.

A new champion of the poor is born, I seem to remember a few heated discussions a good while beck with a certain "local" poster, pitted against another who, more or less denied that poverty existed in Spain.

The poster in question, had the solution to poverty in Spain it was " a good uni degree".
and often quoted that benefits were rather generous in Spain.

Now I cannot believe my eyes that the baton of the wellbeing of the disadvantaged has changed hands in such a short time.

I am cynical?.......I suppose so, because the trun around is huge.....of course I will mention no names, but I am sure that a good number of posters know what I am talking about.

Fredbargate Apr 11th 2013 7:48 pm

Re: This could change everything
 
There maybe more relevant threads to post this on, but this thread is active.

Spanish politicians to be fenced off from evictions protesters

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=28829

cricketman Apr 11th 2013 8:35 pm

Re: This could change everything
 

Originally Posted by me me (Post 10654851)
I find the post on this thread amazing, without putting too fine a point on it, we seem to have had a complete change of opinion from one source.

A new champion of the poor is born, I seem to remember a few heated discussions a good while beck with a certain "local" poster, pitted against another who, more or less denied that poverty existed in Spain.

The poster in question, had the solution to poverty in Spain it was " a good uni degree".
and often quoted that benefits were rather generous in Spain.

Now I cannot believe my eyes that the baton of the wellbeing of the disadvantaged has changed hands in such a short time.

I am cynical?.......I suppose so, because the trun around is huge.....of course I will mention no names, but I am sure that a good number of posters know what I am talking about.

Some out of context quoting going on again

amideislas Apr 11th 2013 9:01 pm

Re: This could change everything
 
I've heard that dogs can instantly distinguish their own shit from others.

jackytoo Apr 11th 2013 10:25 pm

Re: This could change everything
 
:lol:

guirijohn Apr 12th 2013 3:27 am

Re: This could change everything
 

Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10653890)

Fortunately, despite mass protests, "guaranteed employment" is no longer possible in Spain, and business can operate with a lot less cost and risk, and people are becoming more productive.

True, but the number of permanent funcionarios actually increased between 2007 and 2012 and so represents an increasing proportion of a shrinking workforce. Meanwhile the public sector has not been paying private suppliers with the result that some have gone out business. For example, I know a supplier of fire extinguishers that has gone bust, not because it was a bad business but because the bank would not provide credit until it received payment. The banking sector, which should be shrinking in line with the contracting economy, has been protected from closure.

The result is that resources are not necessarily being directed to productive areas but non productive areas are being preserved. It is more reminiscent of soviet planning rather than sowing the seeds for a recovery.


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