Condition of rental properties
Dec 1st 2010, 3:02 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
and again!We have much less than that to live on!!
Yet again I say
Agree with you though, the rental prices in any major cities are frightening.
Dec 1st 2010, 4:20 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
Sorry to start another thread but I thought a whole different set of people might be interested (apart from me, of course)...
OK I looked at my first house this afternoon and was stunned at the condition of the place. Good house, excellent area. Missing light fittings. Not bulbs, fittings. Not even a dangling single bulb affair. In several, possibly most, rooms. Holes in the wall from previous tenants' pictures. Slightly damp carpet in the basement estudio/playroom. Jacuzzi element of the bath not working (I know I don't need a jacuzzi, but if it's there wouldn't you expect it to work?)
In the UK it's a long time since I rented anywhere but you would expect the basics to be in place and the walls to be intact, wouldn't you? Is Spain different? We're not talking a dodgy bedsit in a dodgy area, we're in the expensive end of Malaga!
OK I looked at my first house this afternoon and was stunned at the condition of the place. Good house, excellent area. Missing light fittings. Not bulbs, fittings. Not even a dangling single bulb affair. In several, possibly most, rooms. Holes in the wall from previous tenants' pictures. Slightly damp carpet in the basement estudio/playroom. Jacuzzi element of the bath not working (I know I don't need a jacuzzi, but if it's there wouldn't you expect it to work?)
In the UK it's a long time since I rented anywhere but you would expect the basics to be in place and the walls to be intact, wouldn't you? Is Spain different? We're not talking a dodgy bedsit in a dodgy area, we're in the expensive end of Malaga!
Perfectly nice people become greedy s**s when there's money to be given back!
Dec 1st 2010, 4:26 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
And watch out. My rental house here (in a pueblo) was only 270 euros a month! But landlords the world over don't like giving you your deposit back. So if you're paying 1000 a month and that much again as a deposit you can pretty much expect to be losing that 1000 when you move out! I've rented twice, Once in England and once in Spain. Both times I left the house cleaner, nicer smelling and in better repair than I found it. In both cases the Landlord tried to get the deposit out of me on some 'lie' about condition. They succeeded the first time but I was ready for it the second and made sure I had an Electricity debt of the same value. The Spanish landlords tried to tell me I should paint their battered old furniture before I left! Nothing worked when I arrived and I fixed Persianas door handles, locks and painted the front half way through my 5 years there. Touched the paint up inside as well.
Perfectly nice people become greedy s**s when there's money to be given back!
Perfectly nice people become greedy s**s when there's money to be given back!
In Barcelona, we rented through estate agents and got all our deposit back no problem.
Btw, only because I enjoy shocking scampicat, the rents I've paid are nothing compared to a relative who pays 4k euros a month rent to live in a 2 bed flat in the best neighbourhood in Madrid. She thinks its a bargain, she has royal family as neighbours
Dec 1st 2010, 4:42 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
It is easy to get your deposit back now in the UK as the deposit is placed in a government account, and the owners must give very good reasons to keep any of your deposit.
In Barcelona, we rented through estate agents and got all our deposit back no problem.
Btw, only because I enjoy shocking scampicat, the rents I've paid are nothing compared to a relative who pays 4k euros a month rent to live in a 2 bed flat in the best neighbourhood in Madrid. She thinks its a bargain, she has royal family as neighbours
In Barcelona, we rented through estate agents and got all our deposit back no problem.
Btw, only because I enjoy shocking scampicat, the rents I've paid are nothing compared to a relative who pays 4k euros a month rent to live in a 2 bed flat in the best neighbourhood in Madrid. She thinks its a bargain, she has royal family as neighbours
Dec 1st 2010, 5:53 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
It depends on the status of the rented property of course, but often the best way to guarantee getting your deposit back, is to drop an unsubtle hint you'll be telling the taxman about the undeclared income. You'll often find that if the landlord is trying to swindle you out of your deposit, that they're often the type who's forgotten to inform the tax collector.
Dec 1st 2010, 6:07 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
It is easy to get your deposit back now in the UK as the deposit is placed in a government account, and the owners must give very good reasons to keep any of your deposit.
In Barcelona, we rented through estate agents and got all our deposit back no problem.
Btw, only because I enjoy shocking scampicat, the rents I've paid are nothing compared to a relative who pays 4k euros a month rent to live in a 2 bed flat in the best neighbourhood in Madrid. She thinks its a bargain, she has royal family as neighbours
In Barcelona, we rented through estate agents and got all our deposit back no problem.
Btw, only because I enjoy shocking scampicat, the rents I've paid are nothing compared to a relative who pays 4k euros a month rent to live in a 2 bed flat in the best neighbourhood in Madrid. She thinks its a bargain, she has royal family as neighbours
Consider me shocked! That is 1/3 of our YEARLY income just for one month's rent!
We have Manolo the shepherd and Juanjo the muleteer as neighbours.
Dec 1st 2010, 7:10 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
San Anton. That's a walloping amount of money to 'borrow' someone's house for four weeks, all year round - even if it is a big house with 4,000 odd sq m in one of the lusher bits of Malaga. 12k
Dec 2nd 2010, 10:52 am
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Re: Condition of rental properties
Ooooh I'm going to enjoy this........... I found one whilst idling around the web waiting for 8yo to perfect his serve (tennis rather than waiting tables) .... 12,000 p c m . Yes I kid you not. Pinares de (mentioned earlier in this thread San Anton. That's a walloping amount of money to 'borrow' someone's house for four weeks, all year round - even if it is a big house with 4,000 odd sq m in one of the lusher bits of Malaga. 12k
San Anton. That's a walloping amount of money to 'borrow' someone's house for four weeks, all year round - even if it is a big house with 4,000 odd sq m in one of the lusher bits of Malaga. 12kMy flabber is gasted!
Sorry, this is a ridiculous amount of money to pay for accommodation. If someone has this amount of money to waste then they have too much, imho.
Dec 2nd 2010, 1:52 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
You're right, there arent that many houses. We've seen looking at some very nice 3-4 bed flats for around 1000 euros, but realise some people dont like flats. We are looking a bit further down, around Paseo de Limonar or Paseo de Mirador. Nice and close to the beach and a 10-15min walk to the old town. We just have to summon up some motivation for the move though as we have our own furniture and moving is a pain. So we may wait a few months yet.
Dec 2nd 2010, 2:27 pm
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Re: Condition of rental properties
For us, Paseo de Limonar and Miramar looked best as they are beautiful tree lined streets which are quiet, close enough to walk to the city and close to the beach.
We did notice that the only schools and nurseries in that area seemed to be private though, which is a consideration for some.
Cerrado de Calderon looks nice too, but is more subburban and a bit out of the city, though a quick car journey or bus ride to anyway you might want to go to.
