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Lynn R Aug 30th 2006 12:38 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by glynis
My friend lives in Grimsby so if she is coming out she may bring one for me. If you see a picture at all can you email it to me please.

Sorry Glynis, I don't have any photographs (it's not the most exciting subject for a photo to be honest) but I'm coming out to Spain for a week from 9 September so could try taking one and sending it to you when I get back if you still need it. I can't claim they are cutting edge design objects and they probably wouldn't do much to enhance your decor, but as a practical and cheap option they are great. If a description helps, there is a stainless steel effect shade approx 10" in diameter, with a central lightbulb surrounded by a 2 ring heating element. There is a pull cord mechanism for changing from light only to light plus heat (I think you can have two heat settings), and once you have it at the setting you want you can turn it on and off by the light switch on the wall.

I only knew these things existed because I once stayed in a holiday apartment that had one fitted in the bathroom, and once I had the house in Spain I just had to have one. It got to be a bit like the quest for the Holy Grail to track one down! If I had an ounce of entrepreneurial spirit I would start a business importing them to Spain, I'm sure they would do well.

jonsol Aug 30th 2006 1:28 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by Solarwhizz
Here is a link to an infra red heater bulb, will save all that complicated wiring :scared:


http://www.infraredheaters.com/ese.htm for the idea

and these might sell you some

http://www.bltdirect.co.uk/hshclear.htm

I have located a u.k. supplier for these infrared heat/lighters units similar to mine, they say they wont/cant export, but their website is www.hsdonline.co.uk. and the product code is PP47 and it costs £32.16 without vat, and £37.43 with vat, there is a photo of the unit ,
John.

Val W Aug 30th 2006 1:37 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R
Well you never know - I never thought I'd be seen dead pulling a shopping trolley on wheels, but I do now! At least it's not a tartan one. The days of zip up fleecy lined slippers can't be far off, what an awful thought.

I also get approving nods and smiles from the Spanish old ladies when they see me sweeping and mopping the pavement outside my house and cleaning my rejas.

Maybe we should start a new thread, 'What moving to Spain does to your sense of style' or some such.

What's a rejas? We haven't moved to Spain yet, but have seen everyone with the shopping trolleys. Didn't think I'd need wyncette pajamas.

Lynn R Aug 30th 2006 2:17 am

Re: Cold in winter
 
Rejas are the decorative metal grilles on the outside of windows. The more ornate they are, the more difficult they are to clean - and as for repainting them, don't get me started. You wouldn't believe the amount of dust that collects in all the little scrolls, especially in summer.

Get those wincyette pjs packed - I haven't gone that far yet, but I have acquired a fleece dressing gown, some fleece pjs (not to wear in bed, just for slobbing around it after getting up/before going to bed) and some fleece slippers (most definitely not the zip up kind). Before I got the Spanish house I don't think I possessed a single fleece garment in my wardrobe - let that be a warning to all you fashion conscious people out there!

Val W Aug 30th 2006 2:50 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R
Rejas are the decorative metal grilles on the outside of windows. The more ornate they are, the more difficult they are to clean - and as for repainting them, don't get me started. You wouldn't believe the amount of dust that collects in all the little scrolls, especially in summer.

Get those wincyette pjs packed - I haven't gone that far yet, but I have acquired a fleece dressing gown, some fleece pjs (not to wear in bed, just for slobbing around it after getting up/before going to bed) and some fleece slippers (most definitely not the zip up kind). Before I got the Spanish house I don't think I possessed a single fleece garment in my wardrobe - let that be a warning to all you fashion conscious people out there!

How cold does it get in the evening in the winter months? We are moving inland approximately 20 minutes south of the city of Murcia. I thought this was the last winter we were going to have to put up with the cold weather. What is the temperature like during the day? Will I need to bring a big winter coat, I was thinking of bringing my leather coat, will that be okay? Will we need scarves and gloves? I hope not.

mikelincs Aug 30th 2006 2:57 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by Val W
How cold does it get in the evening in the winter months? We are moving inland approximately 20 minutes south of the city of Murcia. I thought this was the last winter we were going to have to put up with the cold weather. What is the temperature like during the day? Will I need to bring a big winter coat, I was thinking of bringing my leather coat, will that be okay? Will we need scarves and gloves? I hope not.

How far inland is the question, is it in any hills? On the coast you will be unlucky to even get a frost, but things can be different no that far inland, especially if it is on higher ground. Given where you are moving to, I don't really think you will need too much heavy clothing, the most we wear is a light fleece, gets a bit chilly during the night, lowest temp we in the house had during the day with no heating and doors and windows all open because we had workmen in fitting mosquito blinds and air conditioning was 12 degrees last winter, Chilly, and we couldn't have any heating on, but most days the sun was out, and we didn't need heating till about 5 or 6 pm.

Lynn R Aug 30th 2006 3:01 am

Re: Cold in winter
 
As others in this thread have said, you do acclimatise quite quickly when you are there, and you will start to feel the cold in the evenings especially when it has been warm during the day and the temperature really drops once the sun goes down. My house is further south, 5km inland from Torre del Mar east of Malaga, and I don't live there permanently yet, but when I am there in winter I do wear sweaters and trousers in the evenings and a winter coat and gloves when I go out - but short sleeved T shirts in the daytime - not shorts like the tourists wear but lightweight gym type trousers. Its also cold in the early mornings until about 11 am when the sun gets up.

Xmas/New Year temperatures at night last year didn't get down any lower than about 7 Centigrade, but the 2 years before that it only just stayed above freezing at night, maybe 1 or 2 centigrade. And I am not up in the mountains - there they got well below zero and heavy snowfall.

That's only in December, January and February though.

Val W Aug 30th 2006 3:37 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R
As others in this thread have said, you do acclimatise quite quickly when you are there, and you will start to feel the cold in the evenings especially when it has been warm during the day and the temperature really drops once the sun goes down. My house is further south, 5km inland from Torre del Mar east of Malaga, and I don't live there permanently yet, but when I am there in winter I do wear sweaters and trousers in the evenings and a winter coat and gloves when I go out - but short sleeved T shirts in the daytime - not shorts like the tourists wear but lightweight gym type trousers. Its also cold in the early mornings until about 11 am when the sun gets up.

Xmas/New Year temperatures at night last year didn't get down any lower than about 7 Centigrade, but the 2 years before that it only just stayed above freezing at night, maybe 1 or 2 centigrade. And I am not up in the mountains - there they got well below zero and heavy snowfall.

That's only in December, January and February though.

Thank you for your replies. We will be about 20mins inland from the coast, at the foot of the mountains. It doesn't sound as cold as I imagined it to be. I can cope with a light weight fleece, tee shirts and jogging pants during the day. It sounds as though it's just the nights that get cold. I'll stay in with a hot drink, and wear some wyncette pyjamas.

poollounger Aug 30th 2006 6:42 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs
How far inland is the question, is it in any hills? On the coast you will be unlucky to even get a frost, but things can be different no that far inland, especially if it is on higher ground. Given where you are moving to, I don't really think you will need too much heavy clothing, the most we wear is a light fleece, gets a bit chilly during the night, lowest temp we in the house had during the day with no heating and doors and windows all open because we had workmen in fitting mosquito blinds and air conditioning was 12 degrees last winter, Chilly, and we couldn't have any heating on, but most days the sun was out, and we didn't need heating till about 5 or 6 pm.

Last January we had -2 in Chiclana which was the coldest it had been all winter until then. The previous year had been exceptionally cold, with many people losing citrus trees and other tender plants. However the nice thing about winter in Spain is that the sun still shines, and it doesn't take long for temperatures to rise. By 4 pm we were on the beach in trunks, though not in the sea!

bfg69bug Aug 30th 2006 10:03 pm

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by the sun is shining
HI,
Can you tell me if spain is really cold in the winter months!!!!!! :)

yes, it gets very cold in the winter in spain. it rains ALOT. like TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS. like being in the jungle for rainy season.

its not normally cold and raining at the same time tho... ;)


i am going to install a log burner in my lounge this year.

jonsol Aug 31st 2006 7:08 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by bfg69bug
yes, it gets very cold in the winter in spain. it rains ALOT. like TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS. like being in the jungle for rainy season.

its not normally cold and raining at the same time tho... ;)


i am going to install a log burner in my lounge this year.

Hi, What do you expect to pay for your log burner, with fitting ?

bfg69bug Aug 31st 2006 7:43 pm

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by Val W
How cold does it get in the evening in the winter months? We are moving inland approximately 20 minutes south of the city of Murcia. I thought this was the last winter we were going to have to put up with the cold weather. What is the temperature like during the day? Will I need to bring a big winter coat, I was thinking of bringing my leather coat, will that be okay? Will we need scarves and gloves? I hope not.


val, in the winter, if its not raining it will be just as cold as the uk. i still wear my "puffa" jacket i bought in london.

ps. where in mersyside are you ? i visit the wirral quite alot / birkenhead.

you can buy the bathroom heaters here. they are the sort of heaters that bathrooms used to come equipped with in the ´80s in the uk, pull cord etc. they only need a plug on really, or can be hooked to the light circuit to come on when the light is turned on (although NOT recomended - the wiring is too thin for prolonged use.) they should also be WALL mounted, NOT ceiling, as the heat needs somewhere to dissipate to - with it ceiling mounted the heat stays around the bulb and reduces the lifespan of the bulb.

i´ve fitted a few into the bathrooms of alhaurin. ;)

Chiclanagir Aug 31st 2006 11:48 pm

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by bfg69bug
val, in the winter, if its not raining it will be just as cold as the uk. i still wear my "puffa" jacket i bought in london.

ps. where in mersyside are you ? i visit the wirral quite alot / birkenhead.

you can buy the bathroom heaters here. they are the sort of heaters that bathrooms used to come equipped with in the ´80s in the uk, pull cord etc. they only need a plug on really, or can be hooked to the light circuit to come on when the light is turned on (although NOT recomended - the wiring is too thin for prolonged use.) they should also be WALL mounted, NOT ceiling, as the heat needs somewhere to dissipate to - with it ceiling mounted the heat stays around the bulb and reduces the lifespan of the bulb.

i´ve fitted a few into the bathrooms of alhaurin. ;)

Can you buy them in Spain?

Chiclanagir Aug 31st 2006 11:50 pm

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by jonsol
Hi, What do you expect to pay for your log burner, with fitting ?

We paid about 1500 euros. Wouldn´t be without it.

Val W Sep 1st 2006 7:28 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by bfg69bug
val, in the winter, if its not raining it will be just as cold as the uk. i still wear my "puffa" jacket i bought in london.

ps. where in mersyside are you ? i visit the wirral quite alot / birkenhead.

you can buy the bathroom heaters here. they are the sort of heaters that bathrooms used to come equipped with in the ´80s in the uk, pull cord etc. they only need a plug on really, or can be hooked to the light circuit to come on when the light is turned on (although NOT recomended - the wiring is too thin for prolonged use.) they should also be WALL mounted, NOT ceiling, as the heat needs somewhere to dissipate to - with it ceiling mounted the heat stays around the bulb and reduces the lifespan of the bulb.

i´ve fitted a few into the bathrooms of alhaurin. ;)

We are in Rainhill, it's near Warrington, quite a way from Birkenhead. We are actually the last village in Merseyside, two minutes down the road and it becomes Cheshire.

jonsol Sep 1st 2006 11:45 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by bfg69bug
val, in the winter, if its not raining it will be just as cold as the uk. i still wear my "puffa" jacket i bought in london.

ps. where in mersyside are you ? i visit the wirral quite alot / birkenhead.

you can buy the bathroom heaters here. they are the sort of heaters that bathrooms used to come equipped with in the ´80s in the uk, pull cord etc. they only need a plug on really, or can be hooked to the light circuit to come on when the light is turned on (although NOT recomended - the wiring is too thin for prolonged use.) they should also be WALL mounted, NOT ceiling, as the heat needs somewhere to dissipate to - with it ceiling mounted the heat stays around the bulb and reduces the lifespan of the bulb.

i´ve fitted a few into the bathrooms of alhaurin. ;)

The heater that I have mentioned seems to be different to the one you mention, mine is a light and seperate infrared heat in a reflective shield and is made for use in bathrooms, it can be used as a light,....heat and light together, ...or just heat, with a control " pull " in the centre,
J.

jonsol Sep 5th 2006 6:11 am

Re: Cold in winter
 

Originally Posted by jonsol
The heater that I have mentioned seems to be different to the one you mention, mine is a light and seperate infrared heat in a reflective shield and is made for use in bathrooms, it can be used as a light,....heat and light together, ...or just heat, with a control " pull " in the centre,
J.

UPDATE.....I have been in contact with a supplier for these heat/light units regarding posting to Spain, and they have had these broken in transit when they have previously tried to post them , so now no longer try to export them,anyone needing one of these will ;) just have to get a friend to take one to you in Spain when they next drive out,
J.

lynnxa Sep 5th 2006 6:04 pm

Re: Cold in winter
 
nights are already feeling cool to me.........not quite cold ..............and a friend of mine inland in Jalon has put her lightweight duvet back on her bed :eek: ..still sunbathing weather during the day though :)

Lynn R Sep 5th 2006 9:42 pm

Re: Cold in winter
 
I wouldn't think you would need to wait for someone to drive out if you wanted them to bring a heat/light fitting, I brought mine over as hand luggage. It was a smallish cardboard box and couldn't have weighed more than 2kg. Could be a problem with the new restrictions on size of hand luggage on flights leaving the UK if they remain in force, but I've also successfully brought other things on flights as checked in luggage (including a chandelier) by taking it to the special items luggage checkin and putting 'Muy Fragil' stickers on them. We also took a painted blanket box, a dinner service and a garden gazebo out by that method. You get some funny looks in the checkin queue, but who cares? As long as you don't exceed your checked in baggage allowance its fine.


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