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Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 8520617)
It just seems very harsh to me to leave folks floundering with no support. |
Re: A cautionary tale.
It does seem very harsh.
In the Uk I knew a very nice polish family.They were given allowances from the UK for their eldest daughter in Poland because she was studying there and could not be with them. Work that one out!!!!! |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 8520628)
Thats how it was before the benefit system was started up.
Dentists used to pull teeth without anesthetic, they could still do it, but it would be a backward step and surley we have become a more caring society. |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by elspeth sinclair
(Post 8520478)
I can't understand your surprise at the venom in this lady's case as practically every thread in this forum no matter how innocuous is full of venom and it really shocks me how many sad ,lonely ,bitter and twisted people out there are hiding behind very strange names and use this forum for slanging matches or to put people down. I use to love the BBC forums which were strictly monitored and people used their own names. I enjoy wit and a bit of leg pulling but I'm not into blood sports
Even the odd troll adds to a discussion, it reminds people that trolls are around, sometimes wearing normal clothes like the rest of us. |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by JLFS
(Post 8520641)
Just because things were like that before, doesnt make it right in todays society.
Dentists used to pull teeth without anesthetic, they could still do it, but it would be a backward step and surley we have become a more caring society. We cannot go on handing out money like we are and despite what people may think we are handing it out. I couldn't care less about who is receiving it in terms of Polish/European/British but we cannot keep feeding fat, chain smoking, work shy council estate workers who make more money on the dole than they ever would in the workplace. There isn't the generous benefit system in other countries and their populations cope, and to say that there are not the jobs out there is absolutely ridiculous, my OH's hotel has been advertising for a chambermaid now for 7 months and out of the 6 applicants not one was British.... Now they only pay just above the minimum wage but they feed them and house them for free and they have use of a car.... but no, why would anyone do a job like that when they can get their rent/ council tax/ whatever else paid by the rest of us honest tax payers? Something has to give, the deficit is already the biggest its been for a generation and we just can't keep paying people to sit on their fat arses. |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 8520678)
Silly analogy and you know it, the two can't be compared.
We cannot go on handing out money like we are and despite what people may think we are handing it out. I couldn't care less about who is receiving it in terms of Polish/European/British but we cannot keep feeding fat, chain smoking, work shy council estate workers who make more money on the dole than they ever would in the workplace. There isn't the generous benefit system in other countries and their populations cope, and to say that there are not the jobs out there is absolutely ridiculous, my OH's hotel has been advertising for a chambermaid now for 7 months and out of the 6 applicants not one was British.... Now they only pay just above the minimum wage but they feed them and house them for free and they have use of a car.... but no, why would anyone do a job like that when they can get their rent/ council tax/ whatever else paid by the rest of us honest tax payers? Something has to give, the deficit is already the biggest its been for a generation and we just can't keep paying people to sit on their fat arses. They took them to a disused RAF base which they cleaned up for two months. They spent the next two months painting it, and the last two months pulling it down. No wonder they’re on magic mushrooms down there, piloting space ships all over Dartmoor, |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 8520704)
Now that you’ve brought it down to a local level, I’m qualified to reply, When I lived down your way, some years ago now, I used to watch a bus pulling up in the Market Square to pick up the locals on the dole to take them to some kind of work experience, no foreigners, all Devonians.
They took them to a disused RAF base which they cleaned up for two months. They spent the next two months painting it, and the last two months pulling it down. No wonder they’re on magic mushrooms down there, piloting space ships all over Dartmoor, |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 8520713)
Thousands of migrant workers arrive in Britain every year to pick lettuce, fruit, you name it, they do it.... and yet all the council estate rats sit, Daily Mail at hand and they whine, bellyache and moan that the "bloody migrants" are taking all our jobs....
They open the gates to take the sheep to the next field, and once a week take them to the market for the slaughterhouses. They spend the rest of the time sitting about in local pubs complaining about how hard they have to work for meagre profits. |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 8520757)
I’ve got another story about Devon sheep farmers. They work a four-hour week, which is why you have the time to post your thousands of posts.
They open the gates to take the sheep to the next field, and once a week take them to the market for the slaughterhouses. They spend the rest of the time sitting about in local pubs complaining about how hard they have to work for meagre profits. You people on here are some of the most depressingly narky, picky bunch of twats I have ever met! Honestly I don't ever see this anywhere else.... its unreal! You try and have a civil debate with someone and they bring something as pathetic and petty as someone's post count! What a twat you are, seriously, a complete twat. Have you twats not realised that I don't actually need to work.. I don't keep sheep to make my fortune, the fortune is already there in the family.... What a dick! |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 8520764)
WOW!!!
You people on here are some of the most depressingly narky, picky bunch of twats I have ever met! Honestly I don't ever see this anywhere else.... its unreal! You try and have a civil debate with someone and they bring something as pathetic and petty as someone's post count! What a twat you are, seriously, a complete twat. Have you twats not realised that I don't actually need to work.. I don't keep sheep to make my fortune, the fortune is already there in the family.... What a dick! |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 8520771)
To be honest, most of us know that you're the prat, a king sized one at that.
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Re: A cautionary tale.
You can tell they have lost the arguement when the "post count" issue comes up:rofl:
Back to the returning sponger...she is getting benefits, they have put her in a Hostal, if they are in a Hostal they get a daily meal allowance. I suspect the Grandson has been "borrowed" as Elspeth pointed out, in order to make sure she got accommodation. Sure thing she never paid any taxes or social in Spain either, we have all seen people like this on the CDS. I know someone who has been on the coast 20 years and has only worked on the black, he is now thinking of going back as he doesn't have enough work. Maybe better to have hard-working Polish than a work-shy Brit:rolleyes: |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 8518799)
Could this be a cautionary tale for those thinking of a return to the UK?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-seekers.html Just in case I would like to say in my defence that I read the Guardian too. Daily mail :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI |
Re: A cautionary tale.
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 8520837)
You can tell they have lost the arguement when the "post count" issue comes up:rofl:
Back to the returning sponger...she is getting benefits, they have put her in a Hostal, if they are in a Hostal they get a daily meal allowance. I suspect the Grandson has been "borrowed" as Elspeth pointed out, in order to make sure she got accommodation. Sure thing she never paid any taxes or social in Spain either, we have all seen people like this on the CDS. I know someone who has been on the coast 20 years and has only worked on the black, he is now thinking of going back as he doesn't have enough work. Maybe better to have hard-working Polish than a work-shy Brit:rolleyes: Obviously you are too thick to read the article and have jumped to some staggering conclusions, but then of course you have never received any government help.. have you....and you live on the CDS (vomit) |
Re: A cautionary tale.
most of you miserable buggers make me laugh,the woman needs help,help her
where is the humanity on this forum you are mostly rich ****ers with a house there and a house here or just moved here and think you have arrived in heaven with the odd exception your all twats |
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