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pwsuttonuk Jun 14th 2016 6:20 pm

Car Swapping Options
 
Hi,

I am new to this site and had my first message deleted. I am moving to Spain from the UK, not for the first time, and each time lose lots of money either in buying or selling cars or changing plates. I would like to know if there are any sites/contacts for swapping cars with people coming the other way.

Pete

Rosemary Jun 14th 2016 8:20 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
Hi and a warm welcome to the Spanish forum on BE. Myself and Fred James are the moderators for the Spanish forums whilst BEVS moderates Europe. Moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. This is so that members gain the information that they are looking for and find their experiences on the forums to be friendly and worthwhile.

Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderator who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are usually friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge about the issues of living in Spain. I hope that you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

VFR Jun 15th 2016 1:20 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 

Originally Posted by pwsuttonuk (Post 11973449)
Hi,

I am new to this site and had my first message deleted. I am moving to Spain from the UK, not for the first time, and each time lose lots of money either in buying or selling cars or changing plates. I would like to know if there are any sites/contacts for swapping cars with people coming the other way.

Pete

Pete you swap UK cars & as you know simply get new docs from DVLC.
You can swap in Spain but you will still be subject to the re-registration fee(s)

pwsuttonuk Jun 15th 2016 2:12 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
Thanks, but there is still the cost and hassle of making changes to the car and the steering wheel is still obviously on the wrong side.

It would be much better if there was a way to just swap cars with someone that needs a British one if I could find out how.

Pete

VFR Jun 15th 2016 2:54 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
In that case you need to advertise for what you need & be mindful that the UK car will be worth a lot less than the Spanish plated one.

pwsuttonuk Jun 15th 2016 3:16 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
Agreed, but do you know where best to advertise for this kind of thing?

teejaydee Jun 15th 2016 6:44 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 

Originally Posted by pwsuttonuk (Post 11974348)
Agreed, but do you know where best to advertise for this kind of thing?

I don't know about swapping, but there are several UK websites for dealers specializing in selling LHD vehicles. Perhaps you could trade in your existing RHD car to one of these dealers, or sell it privately and purchase a LHD vehicle through one of these websites.

There are also usually many LHD cars advertised in Auto Trader etc.

pwsuttonuk Jun 15th 2016 7:11 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
Yep. I looked into that thinking that used LHD cars might be cheaper here,but apparently not. They also didn't accept exchanges,so still end up out of pocket.

I am now thinking about exporting the UK car, but it is in my wife's name and she is Spanish and still down as a resident - so I assume would pay loads in tax.

I have an NIE but have been non-Spanish resident for 9 years. If we changed the car to my name, could I change the plates within the first month and avoid the import charge?

Also,would it cost significantly more to insure a RHD car in Spain than a LHD one?

Pete

VFR Jun 15th 2016 8:20 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 

Originally Posted by pwsuttonuk (Post 11974348)
Agreed, but do you know where best to advertise for this kind of thing?

Why not on here in the classified section.

pwsuttonuk Jun 15th 2016 9:18 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
Yep,will do.

As the other option, if anyone has any comments on my above questions about importing my car,that would also be much appreciated.

Pete

Fred James Jun 15th 2016 9:50 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
No problems for either of you to import the car, but if you want to avoid the registration tax, you must have owned it for 6 months in the UK before bringing it into Spain and then register it within 60 days.

So, no, your wife cannot import it free of tax as she is a resident and neither can you unless you transfer ownership from her to you 6 months before you bring it to Spain.

The amount of the registration tax depends on the car and its age. What exactly is it?

pwsuttonuk Jun 15th 2016 10:18 pm

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
Hi, this is really useful to know. The car is a 2010 Citroen C4 Picasso.

Could the tax payable be based on the UK value of a RHD car or on a LHD of comparable age in Spain.? That is,can we haggle the value with the gestoria? A comparable used LHD Picasso appears to be a couple of thousand Euros more.

Also, after making the car legal for Spanish roads, are we going to be charged much more for insurance than if we had a LHD car?

Pete

cymruambyth Jun 16th 2016 5:37 am

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
When are you moving over to Spain?

pwsuttonuk Jun 16th 2016 7:25 am

Re: Car Swapping Options
 
I need to be in Barcelona by the 31st August.

snikpoh Jun 16th 2016 10:12 am

Re: Car Swapping Options
 

Originally Posted by pwsuttonuk (Post 11974790)
Hi, this is really useful to know. The car is a 2010 Citroen C4 Picasso.

Could the tax payable be based on the UK value of a RHD car or on a LHD of comparable age in Spain.? That is,can we haggle the value with the gestoria? A comparable used LHD Picasso appears to be a couple of thousand Euros more.

Also, after making the car legal for Spanish roads, are we going to be charged much more for insurance than if we had a LHD car?

Pete

(1) In my experience, the insurance is the same either way.
(2) You can't haggle. There is a published list of values for each and every car. It doesn't matter whether it's LHD or RHD, the values are based on a Spanish version of that car.

We matriculated our RHD Peugeot 307 and kept it for 10 years before selling it to someone who was returning to the UK. Never had any problems with it being RHD and no insurance issues.


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