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When you read about people wanting to emigrate to Spain for a better life and to immerse themselves in the Spanish culture, perhaps it should be pointed out that this is part of the culture they are seeking
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Those who do this , and those who condone this are nothing more than barbaric, inhumane barsxxxxs.
What a rotten image of Spain
Do decent Spaniards really want to be associated with this?

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I wouldn't consider going to a bullfight never mind this barbaric atrocity!!!!

The Spanish government and people should be ashamed of their selves for allowing this, and to call it entertainment,,,,,,,, i would question their sanity!!!

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I agree with the comments so far, disgusting and barbaric custom and treatment.

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Sign the petition and show your disgust. I have.

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I am absolutely against cruelty to animals, unfortunately the way this petition is worded means I would have to lie to sign it.

I have not and will not go to anything like this in any country. I cannot see how any decent human could sanction this for any reason. The people who allow these 'events' are as bad if not worse then the people who actually do the evil act.

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This is a part of Spanish culture that belongs in the dark ages.
However I will not sign any petition supporting the fanatical peta org :thumbdown:

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Yes I too as a meat eater could not sign this without being a hypocritical given the beliefs of the organisation.

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I suspect the same people who oppose this also oppose the recent beheading in Iran.

I suspect that many people were opposed to Saddam Hussein's treatment of his own people.

The same for Afghanistan where over 80% of the worlds heroin is grown.

Colonel Gaddafi took no prisoners.

Or the Libyan regimes use of chemical weapons.

But yet we impose our Western liberal values and sensitivities on the whole world and feign indignation from behind a keyboard and do nothing practical.

The rest of the world does things differently than us, it doesn't make them wrong.

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PETA are a bunch of ultra loonies.

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Eh?

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But we are entitled to hold an opinion on it just as we are entitled to hold an opinion on the organisation that posts it. You can agree with one without agreeing with the others principles or everything they stand for.

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I´m yet to meet a Spaniard in favour of such "fiestas".
Likewise with bull fighting.
I knew many brits in favour of fox hunting, but I think I lived too far south to know any badger baiters.
All of which looks pretty lame to how the chinese fur farms treat those animals!!!
For me, I would put an end to all "death" "sports" but to sign anything by PETA, no can do. Sorry!

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I know many Spaniards who support la corrida, I also know a vet who works at the bullrings, and I also known the son of a famous bullfighter from the fifties and sixties. It's all part of Life, and in this case, Death. You can't pretend those two states don't exist.
Putting pitch on bulls' horns and setting them on fire (as is done in the Carrebou in Catalonia), is horrible I agree, but is horse racing so much nicer? According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equine_fatalities_in_the_Grand_National, some of them die. How about mounting butterflies with a pin?
It doesn't make people any the worse for enjoying a bullfight, indeed it might make them better. Go and see one.

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A horse bread for racing actually wants to run. Fact!
I´m not sure a bull wants to be slowly stabbed to death, or have their heads set on fire!
As for watching such an event making one a better person, I beg to differ.
In fact I´d go as far as to say it would put one in the dwindling minority group of sadistic sick minded freaks that I consider such people to be!

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Takes all sorts.

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You don't know what the horse wants.

There are literally hundreds of rituals and ceremonies carried out around the world of which we in the 'civilized' west disapprove.

It doesn't make us right and them wrong.

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I have a couple of friends, each own race horses so it´s through them I know a little about them.
I have to disagree agree with you Stuboy ref right and wrong.
Unnecessary suffering to man or beast is wrong.

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In general terms - here on this thread and elsewhere - many Brits and others are concerned about the suffering of our fellow creatures. Very laudable too. But this must be a modern idea, to imagine and concern oneself for the feelings of other humans and animals (of course, with the Brits, it's animals first and then humans). People climbed over each other in the past, with never a thought for anyone else. They still do in nine tenths of the world. We sometimes meet them today, in our modern utopias, and we think of them as psychos. We pray for 'karma' to come and strike them.
But Life and Death are constant and impartial. Don't pretend it doesn't happen.

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Empathy...a modern idea :rofl:

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I am assuming that you consider Spain to be part of the civilized West?

Libya, ISIS, Syria and the whole of the Palestinian diaspora cannot be equated to setting live animals on fire. I don't think anyone feels that the Arabs are in it for the fun:blink:

That such a barbaric atrocity can be put on for 'entertainment' and pleasure brings shame to the nation.

I don't quite know who the 'us and them' are but anyone with an ounce of decency is not going to bandy about the word "culture" to excuse this revolting and reprehensible Behaviour :p shame shame shame!