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Old Feb 20th 2013, 9:44 am
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I'm looking to build a house in Javea and currently looking for suitable plots. Any advice regarding builders architects etc, who is good and who to avoid and why.

Does anyone have any comments regarding the new Vivienda development and also there seems to be quite a big development being planned along the road past where the Rodat Hotel is.On the Google map it is a big white area crossed by the Carrer Roure Valencia. Its quite difficult finding plots when not in the country.

In addition what would I expect to pay for a decent detached rental property no further out than the Golf course but preferably closer to Arenal - I was planning to rent and be on site to oversee building work. Can you get rentals for a year easily enough and who are the good agents

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I'm looking to build a house in Javea and currently looking for suitable plots. Any advice regarding builders architects etc, who is good and who to avoid and why.

Does anyone have any comments regarding the new Vivienda development and also there seems to be quite a big development being planned along the road past where the Rodat Hotel is.On the Google map it is a big white area crossed by the Carrer Roure Valencia. Its quite difficult finding plots when not in the country.

In addition what would I expect to pay for a decent detached rental property no further out than the Golf course but preferably closer to Arenal - I was planning to rent and be on site to oversee building work. Can you get rentals for a year easily enough and who are the good agents

Thanks

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I'm not entirely up-to-speed on development in towns but to build a property in the Valencia Generalidad, then you need a parcel of land of over 10,000 m2

You will also need to know that the town hall will allow such a build - many people have been caught out with this one. They have been granted permission only to have it revoked later and their house deemed illegal!


I personally would not embark on this route in the current climate!
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I'm looking to build a house in Javea and currently looking for suitable plots. Any advice regarding builders architects etc, who is good and who to avoid and why.

Does anyone have any comments regarding the new Vivienda development and also there seems to be quite a big development being planned along the road past where the Rodat Hotel is.On the Google map it is a big white area crossed by the Carrer Roure Valencia. Its quite difficult finding plots when not in the country.

In addition what would I expect to pay for a decent detached rental property no further out than the Golf course but preferably closer to Arenal - I was planning to rent and be on site to oversee building work. Can you get rentals for a year easily enough and who are the good agents

Thanks

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I'm looking to build a house in Javea and currently looking for suitable plots. Any advice regarding builders architects etc, who is good and who to avoid and why.

Does anyone have any comments regarding the new Vivienda development and also there seems to be quite a big development being planned along the road past where the Rodat Hotel is.On the Google map it is a big white area crossed by the Carrer Roure Valencia. Its quite difficult finding plots when not in the country.

In addition what would I expect to pay for a decent detached rental property no further out than the Golf course but preferably closer to Arenal - I was planning to rent and be on site to oversee building work. Can you get rentals for a year easily enough and who are the good agents

Thanks

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do you mean up by C/ La Guardia?

I'm told that there's a Consum supermarket going there - not anything residential


I'm not sure what you mean by the 'Vivienda' development - where is that?

however - as the others have said, it might not be an easy task getting permission to build in Jávea atm - be absolutely certain that you can get permission for exactly what you want to build on any plot before parting with a cent., by checking personally with the planning dept.

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I'm looking to build a house in Javea and currently looking for suitable plots. Any advice regarding builders architects etc, who is good and who to avoid and why.

Does anyone have any comments regarding the new Vivienda development and also there seems to be quite a big development being planned along the road past where the Rodat Hotel is.On the Google map it is a big white area crossed by the Carrer Roure Valencia. Its quite difficult finding plots when not in the country.

In addition what would I expect to pay for a decent detached rental property no further out than the Golf course but preferably closer to Arenal - I was planning to rent and be on site to oversee building work. Can you get rentals for a year easily enough and who are the good agents

Thanks

RF
I assume being messed around , misled, lied to, let down , overcharged , ripped off , hidden costs, etc etc does not worry you ? If not good luck , you may be moving in in 3 to 4 years if you start today, alternativley why not buy a ready built bargain ? cheaper than building a new one in most cases , just check it 101% legal .
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Thank you - This is the link for the plots in Tosalet http://www.plotsjavea.com/plots-loca...alet-in-javea/

There does not seem to be any problems regarding building unless I am missing something. Also there is no suggestion that you need to buy 10,000m2 plot as per one post above.

The other development is along the road off where the entrance is to the Rodat hotel off the Camino Cabanes road at the Arenal side of Tosalet

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Thank you - This is the link for the plots in Tosalet http://www.plotsjavea.com/plots-loca...alet-in-javea/

There does not seem to be any problems regarding building unless I am missing something. Also there is no suggestion that you need to buy 10,000m2 plot as per one post above.

The other development is along the road off where the entrance is to the Rodat hotel off the Camino Cabanes road at the Arenal side of Tosalet

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These are clearly urban building plots so the 10000m2 rule would not apply.

It "looks" kosher but whole illegal urbanisations have been built in the past.
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Thank you - This is the link for the plots in Tosalet http://www.plotsjavea.com/plots-loca...alet-in-javea/

There does not seem to be any problems regarding building unless I am missing something. Also there is no suggestion that you need to buy 10,000m2 plot as per one post above.

The other development is along the road off where the entrance is to the Rodat hotel off the Camino Cabanes road at the Arenal side of Tosalet

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yes, Tosalet is highly urbanised, so theoretically that should be fine & as Fred says, it looks legit, & doing a 'whois' comes up with an established agent as the domain owner

I would hope that there is already permission in place for a development like that

how well do you know Jávea? There are many 'half built' developments already - some haven't got beyond the first house or two, some nearly finished, but without properly connected utilities/finished roads etc.
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These are clearly urban building plots so the 10000m2 rule would not apply.

It "looks" kosher but whole illegal urbanisations have been built in the past.
Which raises the question "how can one really be sure?"

Do you simply have to 'take a chance' and hope?
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yes, Tosalet is highly urbanised, so theoretically that should be fine & as Fred says, it looks legit, & doing a 'whois' comes up with an established agent as the domain owner

I would hope that there is already permission in place for a development like that

how well do you know Jávea? There are many 'half built' developments already - some haven't got beyond the first house or two, some nearly finished, but without properly connected utilities/finished roads etc.
I would be concerned in the same way, if they start to build the houses, and then run out of money, which has happened numerous times recently, then you may well be left with a half built, or even fully built house but with no services and no certificcate of habitacion. There are thousnads of these in Spain, and they have been the subject of many TV programmes. Given the huge number of half built, unsold houses around I would certainly steer well away from anything like this at the current time.
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Which raises the question "how can one really be sure?"

Do you simply have to 'take a chance' and hope?
You can never be 100% sure but the closest you will get is to buy a house on an existing, fully completed urbanisation with all the correct infrastructure that is at least 10 years old and has been sold once already.

To be 100% sure - rent!
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This man seems to have been through it all. You may find some useful information.

http://selfbuildspain.com/
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Thanks. I was planning on employing my own builder etc and that is where it woukld be good to know who is good and who is not and that is clearly a major issue - anyone got any further adice and thanks very much for all your comments very much appreciated

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Thank you - This is the link for the plots in Tosalet http://www.plotsjavea.com/plots-loca...alet-in-javea/

There does not seem to be any problems regarding building unless I am missing something. Also there is no suggestion that you need to buy 10,000m2 plot as per one post above.

The other development is along the road off where the entrance is to the Rodat hotel off the Camino Cabanes road at the Arenal side of Tosalet

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For what is being asked for the price, I'm certain you would be able to buy, alrady completed and legal and connected to all serices, a really nice property in the area, without any of the associated building costs, the plot cost appears to be around €170,000 with no guarantee of services and no costing of how much it wll cost to have them installed, and you would have to get all the relevant permissions to build the house, so already you are looking at €200,000.
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Thanks. I was planning on employing my own builder etc and that is where it woukld be good to know who is good and who is not and that is clearly a major issue - anyone got any further adice and thanks very much for all your comments very much appreciated

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I guess you dont believe a word of my previous post , No 5 ?

Its nothing like in the UK in anyway .
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