bobd22

Totally up to you but it is there to be signed if people wish up to them. It was instigated in actual fact pre the vote in support of the position that Farage took so nothing to do with the stay campaign.

Jon-Bxl

consequences....

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HKG3

Scotland would have even less influence in the EU.

There are 650 MPs in the House of Commons, with 59 seats from Scotland. (9% of total seats). However, there are 751 members in the European Parliament and only 6 from Scotland (0.8%).

Maur-Ross

If that is all the influence Britain had then we would be better off out? Britain and Scotland? Probably that is why over half the country folk voted to leave

guirijohn

On Friday the stock markets of Italy and Spain both fell 12%, the UK little more than 3%. Sterling devaluation will boost the UK economy.


What investors are more worried about is the possible disintegration of the EU and the euro zone. If it happens the UK may eventually prove to be a safe haven. It will have the advantage of having moved first.

rspltd

Exactly my thinking! The worm has finally turned and the headlong rush by the Federalist powers of the EU to make a United States of Europe has been halted. Several things will come to light over the next few weeks/months which will demonstrate whether it was a wise decision or not. We still have the announcement/proposals to be made by Juncker which he postponed until after the referendum and we still have the decisions of the Commission and the EU Court of Justice in respect of the validity of the concessions that Cameron thought he had won. I believe there will be a number of other countries who will have the courage to say 'enough' and the EU will eventually recognise that it has to change. I suspect at this moment that what is focussing their mind is where they are going to find the £10.5 billion that the UK will not be giving them given that they currently aren't able to pay their bills. Oh and a final point, a number of people have said that the UK will no longer have a strong voice - what the UK had was one vote in 28 and this from 6 net givers against 22 net takers!

Jon-Bxl

I agree already Junkers has said (roughly) that it wont be a amicable divorce. Why? we were together 43 years+ , net givers, and he wanted us to stay, even though some saw us as a thorn in the side. Also, how can HE say that, he may lead one of the many groups, but there are members who also have a say!!

The other politician I don't respect, Martin Schultz, immediately said (roughly) that he didn't want Tory infighting controlling Europe. What! This was a democratic and open referendum of the PEOPLE.

Its because of people like this, that many were disillusioned about the elites, their ivory towers and lack of 'touch' with the people.

As I mentioned (quoted) previously, if these club presidents want to kneecap us because we want to leave, we shouldn't be in that kind of club. (We are better than that)

I am no fan of Francois Hollande. But. He said (roughly) that although he was saddened about the result, he respects it, and wants an orderly exit, and to maintain our relationships.

Merkel said something along the same lines.

A refreshingly better set of response, but these are democratically elected leaders,
who understand that they are required to serve the people, and can be FIRED by them every few years!!!

Jon

bobd22

All very good points. As for other countries leaving and saying that then one has to consider that. The problem in these countries saying this though is those that are saying it are not actually leading the countries they speak for? They must get to that stage of being in power first!Cameron was the only politician rightly or wrongly that would give the referendum they wanted. Farage wanted it but like in these other countries could not deliver. Some may say it was because of him that the decision was made. Not realy him putting pressure on helped but also in house historic Tory party dislike of eu also. We just have to see how this comes out in the future. For sure there is political panic now as they never expected or planned for this also lies are starting to unravel. Bit like Gordon Brown politicians should be careful what they wish for. The world is still turning though and will continue to do so.

Bo S

There were bigger movements on the stock markets in late 2015 when China wobbled. Its uncertainty that caused Europe's markets to drop now, naturally. The stockmarket has never not gone on to achieve fresh highs regardless of the bad news that has ever been put in front of it. It took 7 years after the 2008 global financial crisis to do it last time though but that was an extraordinary event which is still impacting today.

Its a great opportunity now for the UK to negotiate the right exit on behalf of its people worldwide if so required. We are used to extracting the terms that suit our citizens and creating prosperity for our country and its crown dependancies. Sitting outside of the EU may give us the opportunity to cherry pick what's right for the UK.

I personally don't see a lot changing for the UK and the deep rooted relationship it has with its European neighbours. For quite a while at least.

Blass

Signatures from United States, Germany, France, Syria and Saudi Arabia reports say 77,000 signatures have been removed


Second EU referendum petition FRAUD: Thousands sign from OUTSIDE UK | UK | News | Daily Express

bobd22

If you read the requirements of government referendums then you will see it says either resident in uk OR A UK CITIZEN OUTSIDE OF UK. By the way the petition was set up in May in response to Farage saying 52% for out and 48% for in would be unfinished business and he would demand a further referendum. The person started the petition for that even but it is now given the result being used by opposite side of the argument. Suppose it was OK for Farage but not for remainers? There is an inquiry as I believe more people from the Vatican city have signed than actually live there. Just maybe these people are as bright as those that voted out in the referendum but never thought it would happen, plenty saying that on uk TV. As they say they walk amongst us.

UKESPANA

Biggest mistake ever!!!!