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spainrico Feb 1st 2018 11:03 am

BREXIT EVENT - ALICANTE
 
This from recent press release from British Embassy Madrid -
'Town halls across the Alicante province will be hosting a series of events with British Consul Sarah-Jane Morris to talk about Brexit and how this affects British citizens living in Spain.

Mrs Morris will be visiting the towns in the Alicante province with the highest volume of British citizens on the Padron to talk to residents about any concerns they have around Brexit and to provide an update on the progress of Brexit negotiations and respond to any questions and concerns they may have.

Four events have been confirmed in Alicante south on 12th and 13th February in the following locations:

· ROJALES – 12th February at 12pm. Venue - Capitol Theatre, Calle A.Gonzalez Vergel, Rojales

· TORREVIEJA 12th February at 2pm. Venue - Ayuntamiento de Torrevieja, (3rd floor Salon de Plenos) Plaza de la Constitucion, 5, 03181 Torrevieja

· PILAR DE LA HORADADA 13th February at 10am. Venue - Casa de Cultura calle Carretillas 19, Pilar de la Horadada

· SAN FULGENCIO – 13th February at 1pm. Venue - Centro social, Calle Amstadam, Urbanizacion la Marina, San Fulgencio'

Events in the north of Alicante TBC later next week.

lurchio Feb 1st 2018 3:16 pm

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Any chance of a link to any minutes after the meeting, or even a report on what was discussed by anyone on here that attends?

newpower Feb 1st 2018 3:50 pm

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12432306)
This from recent press release from British Embassy Madrid -
'Town halls across the Alicante province will be hosting a series of events with British Consul Sarah-Jane Morris to talk about Brexit and how this affects British citizens living in Spain.

Mrs Morris will be visiting the towns in the Alicante province with the highest volume of British citizens on the Padron to talk to residents about any concerns they have around Brexit and to provide an update on the progress of Brexit negotiations and respond to any questions and concerns they may have.

Four events have been confirmed in Alicante south on 12th and 13th February in the following locations:

· ROJALES – 12th February at 12pm. Venue - Capitol Theatre, Calle A.Gonzalez Vergel, Rojales

· TORREVIEJA 12th February at 2pm. Venue - Ayuntamiento de Torrevieja, (3rd floor Salon de Plenos) Plaza de la Constitucion, 5, 03181 Torrevieja

· PILAR DE LA HORADADA 13th February at 10am. Venue - Casa de Cultura calle Carretillas 19, Pilar de la Horadada

· SAN FULGENCIO – 13th February at 1pm. Venue - Centro social, Calle Amstadam, Urbanizacion la Marina, San Fulgencio'

Events in the north of Alicante TBC later next week.


So what will they know? The talks havent really started yet and no agreements have been made, and May is going to Balls it up anyway.

mikelincs Feb 1st 2018 3:52 pm

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Originally Posted by newpower (Post 12432545)
So what will they know? The talks havent really started yet and no agreements have been made, and May is going to Balls it up anyway.

+1

davidinspain Feb 2nd 2018 1:44 pm

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 12432550)
+1

Yep thats about the strength of it.Just a guessing game.

dougal03 Feb 2nd 2018 2:08 pm

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It will only be the same details that we can get via an English newspaper or TV news, & that depends on how you interpret that version.Also our Government can do a u-turn a week later.It's not often I feel sorry for the British Consulate but I suppose they have to be seen to try to keep us "informed".Must be old age that makes me a cynic!

spainrico Feb 2nd 2018 2:12 pm

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Well, they are in a 'no win' situation.

But it is an opportunity for Expats to voice their concerns to ensure those in power understand the real issues.

mikelincs Feb 2nd 2018 3:13 pm

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12433223)
Well, they are in a 'no win' situation.

But it is an opportunity for Expats to voice their concerns to ensure those in power understand the real issues.

But you really need to be stating the problems to the UK government rather than to someone who, most likely, will do sod all about the responses apart from spout platitudes.

spainrico Feb 2nd 2018 3:17 pm

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No, IMO this is a very cynical attitude. This IS our conduit to share our opinions etc and the Alicante consulate staff have taken past feedback on board and reported back to Madrid Embassy and on to London.

mikelincs Feb 2nd 2018 3:22 pm

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Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12433271)
No, IMO this is a very cynical attitude. This IS our conduit to share our opinions etc and the Alicante consulate staff have taken past feedback on board and reported back to Madrid Embassy and on to London.

BUT nothing will happen, the current UK government is set on a specific path and will not be shaken from it, the only way for changes to occur is if there is a general election in the UK and there is a change in the party running the country.

dougal03 Feb 3rd 2018 1:09 pm

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I must agree with Mikelincs.When I was in business 2 Consuls were among my clients ,nice people,so when I had a query some years later,I thought that was a place to go to get a reasonable answer.Unfortunately it was my experience that I only got waffle,once I was ultimately told,I think because they didn't know the answer,"not to get into a situation that annoyed the Spanish".Will that excuse my cynical attitude?

Notdunroamin Feb 6th 2018 6:33 am

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I take it that nobody has any confidence in the assurances given by the Spanish government then ?

Brexit: Expats given 'no disruption' pledge by Spanish government - BBC News

IanWorthington Feb 6th 2018 4:13 pm

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The purpose of a foreign mission is to represent the government, not support the local immigrants.

:(

spainrico Feb 6th 2018 4:25 pm

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The other dates:


· BENIDORM -20th February at 12pm. Venue: Centro Social La Torretta, Avenida Ciudad Real, 6, 03503, Rincon de Loix Benidorm

· JAVEA – 20th February at 4pm. Venue: Casa de Cultura de Javea, Plaça De Baix, Javea

· ALFAS DEL PI – 21st February at 12pm. Venue: Forum Mare Nostrum, Calle del Pintxo 2, 03580, l'Alf s del Pi.

· TEULADA-MORAIRA – 21st Feburary at 3pm. Venue: Edificio Espai La Senieta, Av. de Madrid, 15, 03725 Moraira (Teulada Moraira)

dougal03 Feb 9th 2018 3:10 pm

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I am one who thinks the Spanish Govn.DOES want to keep the assurances given but they can't act on their own.Maybe I have a slanted view since I have lived & worked here even before Spain joined the EU.Today there are many thousands of British business owners enjoying a good lifestyle & prospering in this country.For them to stay suits both parties.Mrs.May has too often done a u-turn on promises.In fact,here's a thought.This week she has been celebrating the "votes for women campaign,yet when we leave the EU it will mean British nationals ,who have lived abroad for over 15years,will not even have a vote in local Spanish elections.So any female in that situation once again does not have the right to vote either in her home country or anywhere else.

spainrico Feb 9th 2018 3:13 pm

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See here for update on voting rights

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...-right-to-vote

spainrico Feb 21st 2018 2:59 pm

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The British Embassy in Madrid issued this press release today:

Town hall led Consulate talks reach nearly 2000 Brits

'Consul urges residents to check residency status and get information from the original source.

British Consul Sarah-Jane Morris visited nine towns in the Alicante province over the past month to update British nationals on the progress of the citizens’ rights part of the Brexit negotiations and to answer questions. Mrs Morris also reminded British nationals of the benefits of registering as a resident in Spain, both with the national police (“residencia”) and with their local town hall (“padron”).

Attendance across the towns was high, the Consul having reached nearly 2000 people. Representatives of Brexpats in Spain pressure group were also on the panel at the meetings, as were local mayors and councillors. Various topics came up during the question and answer sessions, especially regarding healthcare, pensions and residency rights and obligations. On residency rights, all speakers were united in encouraging British nationals to check they are properly registered in Spain, and to get registered if they haven’t already done so.

Consul Sarah-Jane Morris said, ‘I would advise anyone who is concerned about Brexit to make sure they always go to the original source for information. Everything that has been discussed and agreed so far can be found on the gov.uk website – it’s easy to check and sign up for email alerts. I also picked up that a lot of people are still not clear about their residency status in Spain in terms of renewing their residency and padron. As I said in the meetings, I will follow this up with the relevant local authorities and we will continue to publish up-to-date accurate information on our gov.uk website and Brits in Spain Facebook page.’

The number of British people registered on the padron, the local register held by the town halls which is used to allocate funding from central government, has been in decline over the past few years. Mrs Morris stated that despite the one million homes in Spain owned by British citizens, less than 300,000 are registered on the padron nationally. Town hall representatives welcomed attendees at the meetings to come and check their registration status at their local town hall office.

The Consul finished the meetings by reminding people to check for updates about the Brexit negotiations from the official sources – namely the Gov.uk website (www.gov.uk/world/brexit). Videos and interviews recorded at the recent meetings will soon be posted on the Brits In Spain Facebook page.'

dougal03 Feb 23rd 2018 2:06 pm

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This of course is just my view.I attended the meeting in Alfaz because I believe that we shouldn't complain unless we take the trouble to listen.This was the nearest venue for me but,quite honestly it would have been more convenient to have gone to the Benidorm meeting.Who on earth chose "the Forum" for this?OK it has a large hall but surely there is SOMEWHERE more central which would have been a better choice.Correct me please,but I think there are more British residents in Albir rather than Alfaz & there is a regular bus service to take you there.Instead,without transport,you make your way on foot to that venue which is up hill most of the way,but fortunately you can have a couple of rest stops as there are benches in 2 places.Of course an audience of us oldies was guaranteed(it is a retirement complex)& there was even a man who had a business who was able to come.I live in Alfaz but sat next to residents in Forum so I was able to have a nice chat about all the many functions,all nationalities,they can attend there.The Consul gave a very pleasant speech,said she was available to take private questions afterwards & after a bit more than an hour of questions & answers suggested we had perhaps enough to digest & closed the session.One point raised obviously concerned the continuation of free health care for pensioners which received the usual answer,but the Consul was honest saying what we all know.However I had a little smirk to myself as we all had been handed a leaflet at the entrance about private health care post Brexit from an Insurance company.Fortunately I personally don't think most of us will need their services.And I think for this exercise I might have done the number of steps suggested we do each day.


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