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angiescarr Mar 10th 2012 9:39 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by bealerDSB (Post 9946926)
Whatever. Just saying you can't alter property that you don't own, without consent.

Cars, Houses, Boats, you name it.
DSB.

Your answer was a bit 'brusque' however. So, Given that you weren't talking to the original poster, you have no idea whether Chiclanagirl owns or doesn't own her house.
Bearing in mind that my neighbours built directly on top of our party wall it seems you can do what you like if you're prepared to run the risk of a denuncia! ;)

lynnxa Mar 10th 2012 9:43 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 9946938)
Your answer was a bit 'brusque' however. So, Given that you weren't talking to the original poster, you have no idea whether Chiclanagirl owns or doesn't own her house.
Bearing in mind that my neighbours built directly on top of our party wall it seems you can do what you like if you're prepared to run the risk of a denuncia! ;)

but he was........he quoted jay01.............the original poster

bealerDSB Mar 10th 2012 9:59 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 9946941)
but he was........he quoted jay01.............the original poster

Thank you :nod:
DSB.

lynnxa Mar 10th 2012 10:03 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by bealerDSB (Post 9946962)
Thank you :nod:
DSB.

:thumbup:


I was beginning to think everyone had me on ignore.................

avocados Mar 10th 2012 11:09 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 9946066)
The Spanish rule (I believe) is that the boundry wall is a party wall. It belongs to both sides and both sides have the right and duty to maintain it. In reality it can cause squabbles. Your neighbour may argue that you have damaged a wall/left it unpainted or whatever and that you should pay to repair or replace it. We have a neighbour who consistently over the last 20 or 30 years has built outhouses joining on to ...even over boundry walls. Effectively gaining land in our case when we pulled the original outhouse down we had to repair 'her' wall. Although it wasn't hers at all. It was the back wall of our outhouse that she had butted up to years ago. Just last year they built another outhouse using the party wall as part of the outhouse wall. Annoying yes. but not worth making enemies out of them. It seems it's just their way. On the other side we also had to repair the side of a neighbours outhouse which forms part of our boundry wall, although they didn't maintain any part of it themselves, and the roof has subsequently fallen in. It'll be interesting to see what they say when the wall we built for them comes down because the rest of the building gives way under it. I expect I'll still be the one expected to pay.

Not true at all !!!

If the wall infringes on both sides, it's shared. That would only happen if both parties shared the cost of building it, etc.

If I build a wall on my land that doesn't breach the boundary, it is my wall and my wall only. the neighbour can't touch it or adorn it in any way.

Agreement between neighbours is only required so as to define the position of the boundary.

avocados Mar 10th 2012 11:13 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by bealerDSB (Post 9946710)
By rights most Rentals you must seek permission to even place a nail in the wall for a Painting.

Totally incorrect - this is Spain not UK.

A tenant only required permission from landlord if they intend to alter the structure of the building, e.g. open a new doorway.

Other than that, a tenant has a right to live in the property as if it is their own home. If that means hanging pictures, putting up satellite antennas, having a dog, cat or whatever, they can do as they please and rightly so.

lynnxa Mar 10th 2012 11:31 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by avocados (Post 9947043)
Totally incorrect - this is Spain not UK.

A tenant only required permission from landlord if they intend to alter the structure of the building, e.g. open a new doorway.

Other than that, a tenant has a right to live in the property as if it is their own home. If that means hanging pictures, putting up satellite antennas, having a dog, cat or whatever, they can do as they please and rightly so.

would you like to inform (all) my previous landlords, please ;)

the last lot kicked off when I let the kids put pictures up with blutac!

bealerDSB Mar 11th 2012 12:22 am

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by avocados (Post 9947043)
Totally incorrect - this is Spain not UK.

A tenant only required permission from landlord if they intend to alter the structure of the building, e.g. open a new doorway.

Other than that, a tenant has a right to live in the property as if it is their own home. If that means hanging pictures, putting up satellite antennas, having a dog, cat or whatever, they can do as they please and rightly so.

I disagree. Regardless of you stating (2) Countries, not my intention.

Can you imagine to implications to someone hanging and securing a Satellite Dish to a building, without it requiring being attached in some form to a building?
It is not like you are installing a roof rack onto a hire car, is it?

Also, you are bleeding many areas into what was a simple thread, into what wasn't - the discussion.
I said that the Tenant would not be allowed to "do whatever the hell they wanted to" their wall [ I forget exactly but it involved building work ].

This is true, unless consent is given. I also disagreed with the fact that the Tenant could make a planning application, if you get me, with the Town Hall. ludicrous.

?? YOU, MAKE A PLANNING APPLICATION - ON MY HOUSE ??
//groan//

DSB.

jay01 Mar 11th 2012 9:19 am

Re: Boundary Wall
 
I think this has gone a little off track, I was enquiring as to the departments re planning so I can have the conversation with the landlady and know what I am talking about.

DSB best will hunni I have no idea what you were on about with regards to raining and roofs, if it rains and they get wet if the facilities are there to provide a roof I would ask for a roof or supply one myself, they are indoor dogs but not 24hrs a day, that would be a lot more of a problem I would think, just the mess and the smell. There is no way I would chain any animal up, I can not see the point of having an animal if it's basic welfare is not being catered for and freedom to move is one of them.

The wall does not a join any other property but a carratera, it appears that permission has to be gained from the junta which she is willing to do, she can understand my issue and also it would improve security, privacy and future rental potential. :thumbsup: as well as stuff all those old boys who think it is great fun winding them up, will not stop them but at least my dogs would be safer

angiescarr Mar 11th 2012 10:39 am

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 9946941)
but he was........he quoted jay01.............the original poster

Ahh You're right Lynxxa! My mistake, Sorry DSB

bealerDSB Mar 11th 2012 8:20 pm

Re: Boundary Wall
 

Originally Posted by angiescarr (Post 9947616)
Ahh You're right Lynxxa! My mistake, Sorry DSB

It's all good :o
In closing :. I hope the Post originator gets their problem resolved, of sorts.
DSB.


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