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Fredbargate Jan 11th 2017 11:51 am

BORDER CONTROLS
 
Tighter EU border controls to be introduced in March will require systematic document checks for everyone crossing a Schengen border, including the one between Gibraltar and Spain.

The amendment to the Schengen Border Code was first proposed in the wake of terrorist attacks in 2015 and finally approved by the European Parliament and the European Commission last December after months of discussion.

It requires travel documents to be checked against relevant databases for all people entering or exiting the Schengen area.

The UK and Gibraltar are not part of Schengen and officials here do not intend to apply any additional checks or controls, and have no obligation to do so.

Schengen changes will bring tighter border controls – Gibraltar Chronicle

The UK is also not in Schengen so how will it affect people entering and leaving the UK heading to or from Europe?

Dxf Jan 11th 2017 2:13 pm

Re: BORDER CONTROLS
 
Hola,

The answer is that tighter border controls come into force for Gibraltar 13th March 2017 from memory - and EVERY person crossing the border will have their documents inspected from that date - no one will be waved through

Davexf

Fredbargate Jan 11th 2017 2:57 pm

Re: BORDER CONTROLS
 

Originally Posted by Dxf (Post 12149168)
Hola,

The answer is that tighter border controls come into force for Gibraltar 13th March 2017 from memory - and EVERY person crossing the border will have their documents inspected from that date - no one will be waved through

Davexf

Dave the reason I posted this in the main Spain section is because of the following:-

It requires travel documents to be checked against relevant databases for all people entering or exiting the Schengen area.

Currently only citizens from non-EU countries are subjected to such stringent checks but once the amndment is formally adopted by the European Council and implemented as from March, they will apply to everyone including EU citizens.


Which of course will/should apply to travelers to and from UK

Maur-Ross Jan 11th 2017 11:29 pm

Re: BORDER CONTROLS
 
Does that mean you need a passport and cannot use ID cards?

Fredbargate Jan 12th 2017 7:44 am

Re: BORDER CONTROLS
 

Originally Posted by Maur-Ross (Post 12149543)
Does that mean you need a passport and cannot use ID cards?

If you are referring to the €5 million Automated Border Control gates on the Spanish side of the Gibraltar frontier paid for by nice EU citizens then I have never used them.
Gibraltar recently issued new ID cards to all Gibraltarians that meet the latest EU standards, this was at the insistence of the Spanish and I was of the understanding that they did work in these machines.

However only tourists use the machines :rofl:

Everyone else walks through the door at the side or more recently through an open machine.
Also there are no machines for drivers or their passengers.


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